Quote:
Originally Posted by WereBeer
I call river, we don't have enough on the villain to discount AQ so assuming he never bluffs we have 12 combos we beat (AQ), split 1 combo of KK and lose to 12 combos (AA, 55, 44). We only need to be good 33% so it's a call for me.
OTOH I am a station and if you discount TPTK down to 6 combos it's marginal so I guess a fold isn't terrible. You're probably not getting exploited enough at 10NL to force a call, but I still do.
Raising river is terrible.
Not 3betting pre is terrible here as well, you are just burning Sklansky bucks or melting Sklanksky dimes if you prefer.
Very much doubt we can give villain all AQ combos plus you left out QQ,88,76s in the range of hands that he could def be playing this way...
So it really comes down to a) does he pot all AQ combos on the river? In that case river is really close:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
16,465,447 games 5.195 secs 3,169,479 games/sec
Board: Qc 5s 4d 8s 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:
35.716% 34.29% 01.43% 5646179 234766.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1:
64.284% 62.86% 01.43% 10350548 234773.00 { QQ+, 88, 55-44, AQs, 76s, AQo }
Taking out some of the AQo combos, our equity drops massively though:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
16,465,447 games 5.195 secs 3,169,479 games/sec
Board: Qc 5s 4d 8s 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:
35.716% 34.29% 01.43% 5646179 234766.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1:
64.284% 62.86% 01.43% 10350548 234773.00 { QQ+, 88, 55-44, AQs, 76s, AQo }
At the same time, this would mean that villain has zero bluff combos in his range (which might actually be the case, eps w river action), but for the sake of argument let's add the two "most likely" bluff combos to his range:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
6,927,680 games 2.247 secs 3,083,079 games/sec
Board: Qc 5s 4d 8s 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:
25.001% 23.34% 01.66% 1616809 115333.00 { KcKh }
Hand 1:
74.999% 73.34% 01.66% 5081072 115339.50 { QQ+, 88, 55-44, AQs, JsTs, Ts9s, 76s, AdQh, AhQd }
And once more with all AQ combos:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
7,887,913 games 2.481 secs 3,179,328 games/sec
Board: Qc 5s 4d 8s 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:
39.183% 37.84% 01.34% 2984879 106037.00 { KcKh }
Hand 1:
60.817% 59.48% 01.34% 4691771 106045.00 { QQ+, 88, 55-44, AQs, JsTs, Ts9s, 76s, AQo }
To sum this up:
River is a marginal call at best assuming that villain 1) ALWAYS value bets pot w/ AQ here and/or 2) has bluffs in his range.
Personally, I think that 1) is very very unlikely when also taking bet sizing into consideration.
2) Is actually more likely then 1) imo but assuming that we say 1) is not the case then we still don't have enough equity to call profitably.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
13,902,813 games 4.462 secs 3,115,825 games/sec
Board: Qc 5s 4d 8s 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:
25.016% 23.35% 01.66% 3246637 231471.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1:
74.984% 73.32% 01.66% 10194078 231484.00 { QQ+, 88, 55-44, AQs, JsTs, Ts9s, 76s, AdQh, AhQd }