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10-17-2016 , 03:06 PM

swril

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 43

Would you call that overbet on the river ?

I Played 10 hands at that table and he was not involved in any of those before this:

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37464679

Hero (UTG+2): $10.14 (101.4 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $10.21 (102.1 bb)
MP3: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $13.06 (130.6 bb)
BTN: $11.72 (117.2 bb)
SB: $10.99 (109.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q

Hero calls $0.10, 6 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.25) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $0.13, Hero calls $0.13

Turn: ($0.51) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26

River: ($1.03) J

(2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero folds

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10-17-2016 , 03:23 PM

Darth_Maul

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,434

Very weakly played.

Don't open-limp; raise or fold.

Because you limped and villain checked in the bb, your hand is well disguised so his bets could mean a wide range. The river over bet looks like he's trying to push you off your hand. Sure he could have a set or straight but he could also have A7, 66-TT, 75, QT, even slow played hands like AQ/KK/AA.

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10-17-2016 , 03:24 PM

jorgelumuta

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 89

why limp?

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10-17-2016 , 03:29 PM

swril

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 43

I admit I played it a little passively which is very far from my regular style.

I usually play short handed tables only and I don't know why today I tried some full ring tables with the idea of seeing many flops cheaply and use my supposed "edge" after the flop...

Anyway AS PLAYED

what do you do on the river ?

Last edited by swril; 10-17-2016 at 03:35 PM.

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10-17-2016 , 04:47 PM

Higo

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 7

Not sure I would call here.

You lost 5 blinds in the hand so far no reason to risk 30 more as villain could have anything.

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10-18-2016 , 03:03 PM

Darth_Maul

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,434

As played I call. You have T2P in an unraised heads-up pot against the BB on a board with no flush possible facing a river bet that looks like he's trying to scare you off.

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10-18-2016 , 08:34 PM

DingusEgg

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,052

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Originally Posted by Higo

Not sure I would call here.

You lost 5 blinds in the hand so far no reason to risk 30 more as villain could have anything.

Way too passive. You are correct though, villain could have anything and we beat almost all of it.

We should be folding 0% of the time in this spot.

I'm raising almost always.

At the very least you have to call. Never fold. Never fold. Please, never fold.

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10-19-2016 , 10:52 PM

Bagpuss

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,153

Raising river is lighting money on fire. So many combos of potential straights out there. Just call.

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10-20-2016 , 02:34 AM

vrbik

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,038

Limping seems very bad to me. Actually I cant find a reason for limping from UTGs. If you want to say something about balance etc.. it is nl10 right?

I would snap call and not even close. We can get value of random worse 2pairs, bluffs, pairs, and actually I cant see much sets in villains range, as I expect that villain will have his pps in his raise-limp range.. and only 68 (16 combos) beat us right?

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