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NL20 QQ on river NL20 QQ on river

09-20-2013 , 07:44 AM
What would you do on river ?
pot is 10.80 and hero has 14.95 left

e: BTN is 27/18/4.5

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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BB: $4.46 (22.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $20 (100 bb)
CO: $22.75 (113.8 bb)
BTN: $24.08 (120.4 bb)
SB: $20.10 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.60, CO folds, BTN calls $0.60, SB folds, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.90) 7 K 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.45, BTN calls $1.45, BB folds

Turn: ($4.80) T (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

River: ($10.80) 9 (2 players)
Hero

Last edited by picovole; 09-20-2013 at 07:44 AM. Reason: e
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09-20-2013 , 07:55 AM
Any reads? I dont see many Kx in His range (we block KQ a lot, AK should 3bet pre, KT raises turn) Otoh villain is not calling with worse. Check River imo. Then prob call since fd missed and there arent 8x in His range. Imo
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09-20-2013 , 07:55 AM
Seems like a x/f to me
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09-20-2013 , 08:46 AM
I checkd him and found this:
3bP: raise/calld me w 88 on 235r
3way x/calld my T + R bet w QQ on K-x-xs xx
seems to play (check/calling) weak hands OOP in mway pots

I was thinking about shoving here to make him fold Kx hands
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09-20-2013 , 09:03 AM
The biggest mistake in this hand was c-betting the flop imo; we are ahead of villain's ranges, but can almost never get 3 streets of value with 2nP (our range looks stronger than it really is because we c-bet into two players on a drawish board). Additionally, we are only concerned about an Ace coming on the turn since our opponent's wide distribution of hands (plus the fact that we hold the Q would make a or Ten on the turn less bad for our hand.

When we check on the river we are inducing a bluff (which isn't bad in a vacuum b/c our MP opening range has few 8's in it) but we have no data on villain's bluffing frequencies and we are never that strong here since we can only c/r the river for value with QJ here imo.

As played, this is probably a c/f but I can see how it may become a call if:
1) ranges were wider (CO vs BTN in a HU pot)
2) we had more data on villain and they were a reg against which we often played.
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