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01-15-2013 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyzoe
Yeah thats kinda what I was thinking, seeing as I'm losing on showdowns...any advice on where to find these kind of spots? Slowplaying more with sets etc?
I would think more about medium strength hands like top pair. The days of getting three streets of value are mostly over IMO.

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Also not winning any money on full house/flush/straights, could I in any way be playing them wrong or could I be running bad over that kind of a sample?
The former is more likely, although anything is possible.
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01-15-2013 , 02:27 PM
After reading a post by Cangurino today I found the first page of this thread and have done a small bit of self analysis on my stats.
(Before today I just expected I could fire my stats up here and someone else would do the work for me - Sorry!!!)

Now I would still hope for feedback because my self analysis could be terrible anyway. But at least now I have tried.

I am going to post my stats for 5nl since December 1st 2012. (52645 hands)

I am also going to post my stats for 10nl since January 1st 2013. (3552 hands) - lol sample but it's all I have played at this level as I have only stepped up. And the reason I am analysing my stats is to fix my leaks before diving to deep into a new level. I have tried to fix a couple of my more obvious leaky play in these 3552 hands.

5nl stats




10nl stats






My Analysis:

First Off my VPIP/PFR gap at 5nl is way too big. 16.03/10.08
My PF 3 bet was only 3.12

I am happy with VPIP and dont want to lower that so my PFR has to come up.
I never limp so I know I have to start 3 betting more in the right spots.
Pocket pairs (22-99) in later positions I usually just call and set mine so this is an area of my game where I can start to pick the right 3 betting opportunities.
I also think I need to start attacking players with a high Fold to 3bet stat when I am in late position.

For my small 10nl sample I am 16.43/12.06 and 4.58 3 bet so I have adjusted slightly.



My fold to 3bet @ 5nl is 78.36 which I am not sure on. Doesn't seem too high.
My call PF 3bet stat is 17.62 .
I don't know what these stats should be but if I am calling 17.62% of these 3bets and folding on the flop it seems like a leak to me.
(I will have to run filters for this to see how I am proceeding after calling a 3bet)


My WTSD%, WSD & WWSF stats look like they fall within the ranges of acceptable for winning players.

My Cbet flop stats are HIGH. Too High.
@ 5nl its 80.44 % with a success rate of 48.58%

@ 10nl its 88.08% with a success rate of 41.35%. (small sample but I can see if I Cbet at 10nl like I did at 5nl I will be burning my own money)


My Cbet Turn @ 5nl was 53.41% which is probably OK in relation to my Flop one. This should come down when I get my flop one down)


I haven't posted positional stats (yet) as I dont want to clog the thread but I can see (and know) that I am positionally aware through UTG to BTN but my SB and BB stats are not ideal.

My ATS @ 5nl is 24.98 (lower than I expected as sometimes I feel like I am constantly stealing so I can ramp it up a notch)
My 3bet steal @ 5nl is 4.99 which seems low and fold to steal 80.33 which seems high.
I would like to 3 bet steals slightly higher and therefore fts slightly less.

My AF is 2.12 which is low.
Only recently I started to try to be my agressive on later streets as I think I could be too passive on the turn and definitely the river.

Sometimes on the river I think "what worse hands will call" and check behind.
I think I am losing value on the river.


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Please rip my stats and analysis apart!!!!!!!!!!
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01-15-2013 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Declanisfolding

My Analysis:

First Off my VPIP/PFR gap at 5nl is way too big. 16.03/10.08 Yes.
My PF 3 bet was only 3.12 Don't increase it by force

I am happy with VPIP and dont want to lower that Why not? so my PFR has to come up.
I never limp so I know I have to start 3 betting more in the right spots.
Pocket pairs (22-99) in later positions I usually just call and set mine so this is an area of my game where I can start to pick the right 3 betting opportunities. Pocket pairs have often more value cold-calling, especially against people who pay off your sets. What other hands do you cold-call? Maybe fold some of them.
I also think I need to start attacking players with a high Fold to 3bet stat when I am in late position.

For my small 10nl sample I am 16.43/12.06 and 4.58 3 bet so I have adjusted slightly.



My fold to 3bet @ 5nl is 78.36 which I am not sure on. Doesn't seem too high. It would be high against thinking players
My call PF 3bet stat is 17.62 .
I don't know what these stats should be but if I am calling 17.62% of these 3bets and folding on the flop it seems like a leak to me.
(I will have to run filters for this to see how I am proceeding after calling a 3bet)


My WTSD%, WSD & WWSF stats look like they fall within the ranges of acceptable for winning players.

My Cbet flop stats are HIGH. Too High. I concur. However, you have to see this in relation to your low PFR.
@ 5nl its 80.44 % with a success rate of 48.58%

@ 10nl its 88.08% with a success rate of 41.35%. (small sample but I can see if I Cbet at 10nl like I did at 5nl I will be burning my own money)


My Cbet Turn @ 5nl was 53.41% which is probably OK in relation to my Flop one. This should come down when I get my flop one down) Why? If you cbet less on the flop, but keep cbetting the same hands on the turn, your turn cbet rate goes up. Against fish it is high, since if they don't fold on the flop they rarely fold on the turn.


I haven't posted positional stats (yet) as I dont want to clog the thread but I can see (and know) that I am positionally aware through UTG to BTN but my SB and BB stats are not ideal.

My ATS @ 5nl is 24.98 (lower than I expected as sometimes I feel like I am constantly stealing so I can ramp it up a notch)
My 3bet steal @ 5nl is 4.99 which seems low not extremely so and fold to steal 80.33 which seems high. not really
I would like to 3 bet steals slightly higher and therefore fts slightly less.

My AF is 2.12 which is low.
Only recently I started to try to be my agressive on later streets as I think I could be too passive on the turn and definitely the river.

Sometimes on the river I think "what worse hands will call" and check behind.
I think I am losing value on the river. Checking has no influence on the aggression factor. Calling does.


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Please rip my stats and analysis apart!!!!!!!!!!
You did a good job. Just remember not to target specific numbers; rather let the numbers guide you to where you might want to consider changing things.
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01-15-2013 , 03:58 PM
I am happy with VPIP and dont want to lower that Why not?
I don't think I open overly loose



I never limp so I know I have to start 3 betting more in the right spots.
Pocket pairs (22-99) in later positions I usually just call and set mine so this is an area of my game where I can start to pick the right 3 betting opportunities. Pocket pairs have often more value cold-calling, especially against people who pay off your sets. What other hands do you cold-call? Maybe fold some of them.

Just looked at cc hands. PP's and some suited connectors, suited gappers, connectors, and some suited Ax.
I think I could find folds and 3 bets in this batch









My fold to 3bet @ 5nl is 78.36 which I am not sure on. Doesn't seem too high. It would be high against thinking players
Ok thanks. So I should be looking at spots I think I can 4 bet for value or call here. And watch out for regs who may be 3 betting me light ?????

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My Cbet flop stats are HIGH. Too High. I concur. However, you have to see this in relation to your low PFR.


In what sense?



My Cbet Turn @ 5nl was 53.41% which is probably OK in relation to my Flop one. This should come down when I get my flop one down) Why? If you cbet less on the flop, but keep cbetting the same hands on the turn, your turn cbet rate goes up. Against fish it is high, since if they don't fold on the flop they rarely fold on the turn.

Ok I need to pick my flop c betting spots better. I will not make any turn cbet adjustments and look again at these stats together in another few weeks.

I haven't posted positional stats (yet) as I dont want to clog the thread but I can see (and know) that I am positionally aware through UTG to BTN but my SB and BB stats are not ideal.


My 3bet steal @ 5nl is 4.99 which seems low not extremely so and fold to steal 80.33 which seems high. not really

Ok I was assuming more than anything as I wasn't sure of the normal rates. I could have (and would have) looked it up but I wanted to see how accurate my assumption was.
My AF is 2.12 which is low.
Only recently I started to try to be my agressive on later streets as I think I could be too passive on the turn and definitely the river.

Sometimes on the river I think "what worse hands will call" and check behind.
I think I am losing value on the river. Checking has no influence on the aggression factor. Calling does.

I think my betting on the river may not be optimal either although I didn't say this in my original post.

I tried to get pre-flop sorted first and the flop play.
I am happy with those streets to an extent but I have work to do on the turn and on the river.




You did a good job. Just remember not to target specific numbers; rather let the numbers guide you to where you might want to consider changing things.


Thanks alot, I will give it a few weeks and see how I look.
I will change a few things and in a few weeks or 50000 hands see what numbers I have arrived at rather than aim for any particular number.

Much appreciated
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01-15-2013 , 04:09 PM
Fold the gappers and the unsuited connectors. If you really think you need to 3bet something (I don't) then do it with Axs - you got a blocker, and some equity when called.

As for the cbetting: If somebody opens only AA we would expect them to cbet 100%. However if somebody opens 100% he has no pair/no draw around 70% of the time, so if he cbets more than 40% he's mostly full of it. So a tighter opener is supposed to cbet more.
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01-15-2013 , 07:59 PM
Hey guys, here's the last 100k hands of my most recent/worst downswing. I hope someone can take a quick look and try point out any obvious leaks. I realise that I am losing too much from the BB and am not playing aggressively enough in general which I am trying to work on.







If you need anything else, let me know. Thanks.
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01-16-2013 , 11:36 AM
^^^ Going to be interesting to see what people say about these because If I looked at your stats without your winnings tab I would say you should be winning money.

Only things that really stand out are losing a lot in the BB like you mention and maybe you are opening too tight UTG and not stealing enough from the CO/BTN. You probably could cbet more as well.

usually when people are losing theres a ton of leaks that immediate jump out so probably need someone with a lot more idea than me to see whats wrong here.
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01-16-2013 , 12:23 PM
Yazzx,

agreed with MartL, your stats look good overall. Your BB play is the outlier. Do you feel the need to "defend your BB"? You have a 6% gap between VPIP and PFR, your aggression is very low compared to all other positions, your CC% is 8.6%, and your W$WSF is the lowest of all positions. Time to start folding more from the BB. Fold speculative stuff, fold small pairs, fold dominated broadways (AJ/KT, etc).
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01-17-2013 , 03:21 AM
Hi!!
Here are my stats from leakbuster, any help apreciated






Last edited by luuuiiigiii; 01-17-2013 at 03:33 AM.
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01-17-2013 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mtagliaf
Yazzx,

agreed with MartL, your stats look good overall. Your BB play is the outlier. Do you feel the need to "defend your BB"? You have a 6% gap between VPIP and PFR, your aggression is very low compared to all other positions, your CC% is 8.6%, and your W$WSF is the lowest of all positions. Time to start folding more from the BB. Fold speculative stuff, fold small pairs, fold dominated broadways (AJ/KT, etc).
Yeah this is all stuff I am working on, it's nice to have you guys confirm it. I do feel the need the defend my BB more than I probably should, and when I'm on the BB and someone else min-raises I find it so hard to fold there with mediocre hands lol. I didn't realise I was losing so much from the BB until I looked at those stats myself.

What kinda 3bet and CC% is normal from the BB? Or what should I be aiming for?

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.
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01-17-2013 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yazzx
Yeah this is all stuff I am working on, it's nice to have you guys confirm it. I do feel the need the defend my BB more than I probably should, and when I'm on the BB and someone else min-raises I find it so hard to fold there with mediocre hands lol. I didn't realise I was losing so much from the BB until I looked at those stats myself.

What kinda 3bet and CC% is normal from the BB? Or what should I be aiming for?

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.
Best advice I would say is dont aim for any stats and instead play each hand individually in the best way that you can.
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01-17-2013 , 02:39 PM
Hey guys, would really like some input and constructive criticism on stats from my last 100K hands. As you'll see, things haven't been going well. I currently don't have a coach, but will look into getting one soon.
My obvious leaks are my BB play, high aggression factor and not going to showdown often enough.
95% is from 25NL, the other 5% is from 10NL.

Results Graph


Play by Position


Leak Buster Stats 1


Leak Buster Stats 2


Please don't hold back
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01-18-2013 , 08:58 PM
Hello,

I know that the sample size is small but does any leaks stand out in these stats at 25NL.









I see that WTSD is low but I am not sure about how to change that.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Last edited by bumpx; 01-18-2013 at 09:13 PM.
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01-19-2013 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpx
I see that WTSD is low but I am not sure about how to change that.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Actually it's a little bit high, but the sample size is really small. It looks like you defend your blinds a bit too much; have a look at those hands and see what you can improve. 3bet is on the high as well if you are still struggling to beat the game.
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01-19-2013 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Trisector777
Hey guys, would really like some input and constructive criticism on stats from my last 100K hands. As you'll see, things haven't been going well. I currently don't have a coach, but will look into getting one soon.
My obvious leaks are my BB play, high aggression factor and not going to showdown often enough.
95% is from 25NL, the other 5% is from 10NL.


Please don't hold back
Hard to see anything immediately stand out.

It does look like you are maybe folding to flop cbet too much and playing very fit or fold post flop when you are cold calling.

It looks to me as though you are folding your blinds too much and maybe dont have much of a cold calling range when you are in the blinds as your 3bet stats look pretty much normal from there.

You must have some subtle leaks somewhere because overall your stats look pretty `normal`. I can certainly recommend the 1-1 coaching method just be very careful and do your research.
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01-19-2013 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MartL
Hard to see anything immediately stand out.

It does look like you are maybe folding to flop cbet too much and playing very fit or fold post flop when you are cold calling.

It looks to me as though you are folding your blinds too much and maybe dont have much of a cold calling range when you are in the blinds as your 3bet stats look pretty much normal from there.

You must have some subtle leaks somewhere because overall your stats look pretty `normal`. I can certainly recommend the 1-1 coaching method just be very careful and do your research.
Thanks so much for your advice.

You definitely bring up some important points. I do tend do play fit or fold for the most part. I also have a tight cold-calling range from the blinds. I will definitely look into solving these problems and eventually getting a coach.

Thanks again
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01-19-2013 , 04:49 PM
Is this a downsizing? am i that bad?
seriously, losing 4BB/100 over 50k hands is tough...
i was winning that on NL10 over 150k hands...
am i tilting a lot or afaid of NL25 so i'm making bad decisions?
is NL25 so different from NL10?
this graph makes me super sad

NL25 graph:



NL10 graph:

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01-19-2013 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Is this a downsizing? am i that bad?
seriously, losing 4BB/100 over 50k hands is tough...
i was winning that on NL10 over 150k hands...
am i tilting a lot or afaid of NL25 so i'm making bad decisions?
is NL25 so different from NL10?
this graph makes me super sad

NL25 graph:



NL10 graph:

It's like talking to a brick wall with you. So many people have said it so many times, you are incredibly spewy, you play a ******edly high variance style and once again where you see poker, I see pure spew.
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01-20-2013 , 05:03 AM
Dem ist nichts hinzuzufügen.
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01-20-2013 , 11:27 AM
Thanks Cangurino. I will plug those leaks.
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01-20-2013 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MartL
Best advice I would say is dont aim for any stats and instead play each hand individually in the best way that you can.
Thanks. Played very well the last few days and the results have shown.

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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Is this a downsizing? am i that bad?
seriously, losing 4BB/100 over 50k hands is tough...
i was winning that on NL10 over 150k hands...
am i tilting a lot or afaid of NL25 so i'm making bad decisions?
is NL25 so different from NL10?
this graph makes me super sad

NL25 graph:



NL10 graph:

You haven't even posted any stats, how are people supposed to help. ;o
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01-20-2013 , 02:39 PM
Here is my stat for nl2 zoom(full ring) after around 10k hands:


What do you think?
Any obvious leak?
Thanks
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01-20-2013 , 02:43 PM
Can you post the overall stats as well (not divided by position)? The sample size is a bit on the low side.
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01-20-2013 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
Can you post the overall stats as well (not divided by position)? The sample size is a bit on the low side.
Here you are:


yeah, sample size is tiny but I want to make sure that I'm not doing something very wrong(obvious leak)
thanks
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01-20-2013 , 03:36 PM
those are my NL25 stats:



anything wrong that i can improve?
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