I never open limp (be the first one to put money in the pot), unless it is to exploit someone. If I am in the sb with a premium hand, and I have a note saying that the the big blind always raises sb limps, I will limp and reraise or limp call as a trap, but again it is villain specific. (btw, take notes!) I will never open limp for the sake of seeing a cheap flop. I will overlimp with low pocket pairs, sc, and occasionally suited aces from late position if the people who act behind me are not the type who will raise really wide to steal all of the dead money. If the limpers are all 1/2 stacks or less, I will just fold them. If you are in late position with any ace, and it folds to you, you should be raising to 3x to steal the blinds. If you get called, that is not the best result, but you have a hand that can flop well in position. If you get 3 bet, for now, fold 100% of the time. If your steals are constantly getting 3 bet, move to a new table.

Calling raises with SCs and pp is very villain dependent. You have to consider effective stack sizes, and how tight their range is. If they are raising preflop 20+%, there range is going to be very wide, so you are not going to have very high implied odds. If they have a pfr% of 4%, you know that the likely have 1010+ or AK, so if you make your set/straight/flush, there is a much better chance that you will win their stack b/c they have an overpair or top pair top kicker. Never call to set mine if the bet is more than 10% of your effective stacks. Pretty much always call when it is less than 5% of your effective stack. If the villain is an unknown, 7% of your effective stack is a good rule.

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any tips would appreciated.

my main question, do i just keep on grinding here or can i move up yet?

included all main stats i can think off, did a leakbuster analysis with the spreadsheet as well which is included.

Rayuki,

Don't move up until you are beating 2NL for 5ptBB/100 over a good hand sample. This will not be hard to do.

Never open limp. That alone should be enough to get you beating 2NL for 5ptBB/100.

3 bet more. When a 53/17 raises from the cut off, and you have 1010, 3 bet him. When a tag raises from mp, 3 bet him with ak, qq+.

Don't be afraid to get all in preflop with KK against tags and AK against 80/35 droolers.

Steal WAY more. Search for Pokey's post on stealing and read it twice.

Stop calling 3 bets. If your fold to 3 bet is not >70% at this level, you are calling to much. Fold KQs and AQo to a 3 bet. You have huge reverse implied odds. Don't call a 3 bet with 88 to set mine with 100bb effective stacks.

Keep at it and you will be crushing 2NL and higher in no time.

Hi guys,

I first started out playing 15k hands of 6max 2nl followed by another 15k hands of 6max 5nl. After repeatedly getting crushed at 5nl for -6BB/100, I decided to stop playing 6max and instead try out Full Ring 5nl.

This is my first 25k hands at 5nl Full Ring. Please give me your input on my stats. Currently, I am playing 9 tables at a time. It took me about 12k hands of 9 tabling to get used to multitabling (here you see that my non-showdown winnings has leveled out). My last 3K hands I tried to play 12 tables, but 2k hands through that session, I noticed that my non-showdown win rate was decreasing dramatically. So I basically went back to 9 tables and I will probably stay at that limit for a while.

thanks for the advice and encouragement, its been a grind but i'll keep at it

Thanks a lot. I didnt find it because I was searching for non-showdown winning, not by red line.

This post is very useful: Fix your red line woes without spewing your stack

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Hello all. I started playing poker this past August and I am relatively new to 2p2. I've been moving my way up the micro full ring games on Pokerstars. Here are my last ~20k hands at 50nl. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

My 3-bet and squeeze stats will be off from what I play now as I've been looking for more and more spots to use both. (Those CotWs were fantastic.)

I'm not too worried about my losses from UTG and with medium pairs. I think these are mostly from getting set under set a bunch of times (or something similarly beat).

I think my losses with weak ace hands should be fixed though. Maybe I should stop isolating limpers with ace-rag?

Here are some more basic stats (from Poker Copilot)

Hey guys, quick question on BB and SB loss rates.

If I were to fold every hand, I would lose 50bb from the small blind and 100bb from the big blind, correct?

My current stats are -56bb/100 from the SB and -68bb/100 from the BB. Are those stats considered good, average, or a leak?

Think a good wr in the BB is somewhere around 0.17BB/hand so 34bb/100.

Mpethy said in a post that this one guy with a loss of -25bb/100 in the SB and -50bb/100 in the BB had leaks. So I guess it's a leak for you too. Send him a PM, he can give you a better answer.

Hi

I posted my stats a couple of pages ago but they got ignored. Likely because the sample size was small. I have played another 12k or so hands since then so there is probably enough to go on now.

I normally play 9 tables at 50NL and 100NL. But to start the year I decided to do two things.

• Move up to 12 tables
• Re-assses my game which had, I admit, become way to laggy. With stats over my last 100k being at 19/15, with some deterioration in my positional play, too much 3 betting, too much calling from the blinds, too much raising easily dominated hands in early position. Ugly to be honest. I used to be a decent lag, but my stats went to hell in the last part of 2009.

Therefore I am spending January moving up through the levels again. Setting myself a 25k hands before moving up. I am hoping to be back at 50NL by the end of the month. I must be at 3ptbb/100 over 25k hands in order to move up. As you can see I should be at 25nl within a day or so.

So, I require that both my winrate and stats be decent before allowing myself to move up. I must have both decent stats and profit. I think this process will set me off well in 2010.

I was going to start at 25nl, and played a couple of hours there before deciding to start at 10nl, hence those hands.

The above isn't a bankroll requirement. I am rolled for 100NL, just a way of setting goals towards retraining myself as a 12 tabling TAG.

So, below are my stats so far. These are hands played form the 1st of Jan. As you can see I am well on my way to +50k hands this month.

Any comments, I would be happy to hear them!

David

Currently 9-tabling. Thanks in advance.

Hey HelpWanted. I think you could probably tighten up a bit in early position and loosen up a bit in late position. You button pfr should probably be a lot higher than your pfr from the cutoff. Also I wouldn't open limp. ever.

Ty muffinman

At Areyoulocal?:

I think you can loosen up quite a bit in late position. Your pfr stats seem to increase linearly as your position gets better. I don't think this should be the case. You should be opening a lot more hands in the cutoff than in the high jack and likewise a lot more hands from the button than the cutoff.

It also seems like you should be defending your blinds a bit more aggressively.

Don't do the open limping, fold or raise instead.

Your WTSD of 28.35 is a little high imo. Looks like you are calling to much behind or not betting when you are ahead.

Many thanks for the response. I think you are correct about loosening up in late position. I do feel that I have over my last 10k hands. My attempt to steal has increased from 22.37% to 23.78% and my PFR on the button has increased from 11.39% to 13.20%, averaged over the whole sample. So the actual increase is obviously higher.

As for the blinds, I don't know. I certainly have never felt comfortable defending with easily dominated hands in the blinds. How does my win/loss look in those positions?

Many thanks to you too!

No, I never open limp anymore, haven't done in a while

Could my high WTSD be a factor of my tight play? I am playing around 13/10, so my hands tend to have a higher than average showdown value after all? Or is it still too high with that in mind do you think?

I have started betting more when I am ahead, if you compare my previous stats you will see an overall increase in aggro, especially on the river.

River 1.15/total 2.42, increased to River 1.36/total 2.49. Again, over the whole sample. The the actual increase is greater.

It's a pretty small sample size, but I think you should keep an eye on it in the future.

Filter for hands where you went to SD and lost and see if there are any hands you could have played differently.

I don't use PT I use PO which is slightly different. All my stats are right on, except for one. It shows my overall went to showdown % at 4.5% which can't be right. Anyone have any idea's what they are doing there or should I contact someone with PO? I am a 4bb/100 winner @ NL25 over 40k hands.

4.5% sounds pretty normal to me. You are probably playing in 15-20% of pots and most of those don't go to showdown.

Anyone wanna give my stats a shot? They're on the previous page.

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natutna,

Looks like you can steal more blinds from late position. This is where you should be making a lot of your profit.

3bet more. It's fun.

Defend your blinds more.

Hello! I know my sample sizze is samll but it really sucks to breakevene at 5nl in 7k hands when I was beating 2NL over 25k hands at 10ptbb/100
so here they are, I thank you all in advance to make this, and mphetybridge (dont know if i wrote it ok, so soryy) I will taKe your leakfinder and coaching with split next month, thanks thanks thanks go go go