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02-05-2017 , 04:40 PM
For me you're valuebetting on every street LOOOL

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Ok, serious now. Pre is fine because squeeze is such a profitable play, but if nobody called, I think 3-betting is bad, simply because you'll be playing vs a tight range, OOP with a reasonable hand and deep. As played, fine. without a caller, flatting pre is better

OTF both betting and checking are fine, I lean more towards betting here for value because KQ/JJ/TT will call. Vs a more aggressive villain, checking to induce is better.

when facing a min-raise OTF, it's a good idea to call, since it's small, you can't fold TPTK vs minraises like this, he may be bluffing small with his draws, but if you think villain will do this only with KK+/sets, then folding right there is fine, if you had never seen villain take that line, call him down and take notes so you can fold the flop without losing more money in the future on these spots.

OTT just call, you have a good amount of showdown value, price is ok. If he bets more than 33% of the pot you can safely fold OTR, if another diamond comes and it doesn't pair the board, you can donk shove sometimes

If you want to bluff this turn and have strong reads that villain is capable of folding KK+/sets OTT, then check-minraising isn't a good play, just check-jam. But I think it's better to do this move when you have Qd or Ad, since you have blockers to his flushes and can draw into a better hand.

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02-05-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
at 5nl you dont need to be concerned with calling a flop raise to bluff turn and you picked one of the worst hands to do it with, the only flush draws/flushes you can have that make sense are JdTd, KdTd, KdJd, AdKd, AdJd and you'd probably jam flop with all of those as they have 35-40% equity even vs sets.

i would jam or fold flop, ur play is just spewy

imo.
jamming the flop is terrible, specially this deep
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02-05-2017 , 04:55 PM
At the most basic level trying to bluff someone who's repping a ton of strength in a 3bet pot is never likely to end well.
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02-05-2017 , 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
jamming the flop is terrible, specially this deep
whoops didn't realise stack sizes, in that case i fold and agree with Husker.

Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
[ ] Rostucko


success, +6 BI's in bb

not bad for a sunday at 10nl i suppose

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02-05-2017 , 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
at 5nl you dont need to be concerned with calling a flop raise to bluff turn
yes..this--the best play in this case at these stakes is this!! wanted to punch myself 4 doing that fancy play

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Originally Posted by YouFaiil
...and you'd probably jam flop with all of those...
not a big fan of this play...giving that is nl5 and i'm trying to bluff him i think with a x/r ott i can "convince" him a bigger ammount of times...

Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
ur play is just spewy
yep

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
OTT just call, you have a good amount of showdown value, price is ok. If he bets more than 33% of the pot you can safely fold OTR, if another diamond comes and it doesn't pair the board, you can donk shove sometimes
...could be an option....

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Originally Posted by Husker
At the most basic level trying to bluff someone who's repping a ton of strength in a 3bet pot is never likely to end well.
Yep..... one of this hands where i ask myself..why?? just why?



tnx 4 your opinons guys* Really apreciated*
but my point here is: after i build that lot of **** and being in that **** situation do i have most value jaming or just giving up on this river in your opinion?
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02-05-2017 , 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
not bad for a sunday at 10nl i suppose
No0O bad... r u playing zoom or reg?
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02-05-2017 , 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokkerreddu


tnx 4 your opinons guys* Really apreciated*
but my point here is: after i build that lot of **** and being in that **** situation do i have most value jaming or just giving up on this river in your opinion?
give up, if you're going to jam, do it OTT or on a river diamond

also don't be sad when you make tilt plays like those, just keep playing it fine, realize it was a mistake and move on
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02-05-2017 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pokkerreddu
No0O bad... r u playing zoom or reg?
reg tables

if we are going to bluff in that hand it'd be much better to do it with a diamond as it blocks the villain having a flush. e.g. if we have AdQx
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02-05-2017 , 06:18 PM



one time
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02-05-2017 , 06:24 PM



next time
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02-05-2017 , 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE
next time
AAAgggRRR...flip?
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02-05-2017 , 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouFaiil
reg tables

if we are going to bluff in that hand it'd be much better to do it with a diamond as it blocks the villain having a flush. e.g. if we have AdQx
i know...
it was a no sense hand in some way..well at less at nl5 zoom...
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02-05-2017 , 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokkerreddu
AAAgggRRR...flip?




    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (40,000/80,000 blinds, 10,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37629465

    MP3: 4,006,315 (50.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): 924,757 (11.6 bb)
    BTN: 2,577,623 (32.2 bb)
    SB: 2,448,338 (30.6 bb)
    BB: 1,190,528 (14.9 bb)
    MP1: 1,177,512 (14.7 bb)
    MP2: 1,493,985 (18.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 2
    3 folds, Hero raises to 914,757 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB raises to 1,749,514, BB folds

    Flop: (1,979,514) 4 3 T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (1,979,514) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (1,979,514) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: 1,979,514 pot
    Final Board: 4 3 T J A
    Hero showed 2 2 and lost (-924,757 net)
    SB showed 7 A and won 1,979,514 (1,054,757 net)



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    Any MTT guys able to tell me if his overshove is standard there? Seems a bit loose to me.
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    02-05-2017 , 07:30 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE



    next time
    lol, u are brazillian too haha
    seems you're an anomaly, most brazillians aren't nits
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    02-05-2017 , 07:32 PM
    std shove
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    02-05-2017 , 07:42 PM
    [QUOTE=Rapidesh123;51663381]lol, u are brazillian too../QUOTE]

    ..take a look at the name..L0lly
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    02-05-2017 , 08:28 PM
    Unlucky hurt, considering last month, would of been great to get a score. Hope you run better next time.
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    02-05-2017 , 08:35 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    lol, u are brazillian too haha
    seems you're an anomaly, most brazillians aren't nits
    you aren't very bright as you. His account is highlighted in green mate.
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    02-06-2017 , 12:53 AM
    A7 seems marginal A8 probably a call.

    Last edited by Bagpuss; 02-06-2017 at 12:53 AM. Reason: wtf do i know lol
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    02-06-2017 , 01:38 AM
    yeah A8o is a clear rejam vs co,(obv assume co is jamming somewhat correct to nash) a7 seems a bit loose.

    I don't know why I decided to jump into 500z pool today.

    only lost 700 after 1k hands. obv has to run KK into AA BvB vs one of my 200z rivals..

    then vs a 200z russian station. didn't expect him to show up with that due to position.

      Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37629521

      BTN: $543.08 (108.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $539.12 (107.8 bb)
      BB: $661.03 (132.2 bb)
      UTG: $507.50 (101.5 bb)
      MP: $1,307 (261.4 bb)
      CO: $695.47 (139.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J T
      UTG folds, MP raises to $11.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $45, BB folds, MP calls $33.75

      Flop: ($95) 7 5 K (2 players)
      Hero bets $30.36, MP calls $30.36

      Turn: ($155.72) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $116.90, MP calls $116.90

      River: ($389.52) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $346.86 and is all-in, MP calls $346.86

      Spoiler:
      Results: $1,083.24 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 7 5 K 3 7
      Hero showed J T and lost (-$539.12 net)
      MP showed K Q and won $1,080.24 ($541.12 net)



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      and insta quit after this hand vs a fish




        Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37629522

        BTN: $927.22 (185.4 bb)
        SB: $377.50 (75.5 bb)
        BB: $805.58 (161.1 bb)
        UTG: $500 (100 bb)
        MP: $726.22 (145.2 bb)
        Hero (CO): $648.11 (129.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A T
        UTG folds, MP raises to $11.25, Hero raises to $40, BTN folds, SB calls $37.50, 2 folds

        Flop: ($96.25) 4 6 T (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $40.77, SB calls $40.77

        Turn: ($177.79) 7 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $100.89, SB raises to $296.73 and is all-in, Hero calls $195.84

        River: ($771.25) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $771.25 pot ($3.00 rake)
        Final Board: 4 6 T 7 K
        SB showed 8 9 and won $768.25 ($390.75 net)
        Hero showed A T and lost (-$377.50 net)



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        02-06-2017 , 01:36 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
        Just looked at the rake I paid on each stake
        NL25/50: 8bb/100
        NL10: 12bb/100
        NL2: 4.5bb/100

        man... 12bb/100
        stars is robbing people off their money like crazy
        Wow 12bb/100 at NL10 ? Did you use [(tot rake $)/(big blind $)]/(nr of hands/100) formula.
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        02-06-2017 , 02:20 PM
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        Originally Posted by Mrt1989
        Wow 12bb/100 at NL10 ? Did you use [(tot rake $)/(big blind $)]/(nr of hands/100) formula.
        yes

        and NL10 is usually full of nits, even if they can be easily exploited, a 12bb/100 rake is ******ed. Maybe it was because I used to play a lot of pots, pretty loose and aggressive, but it's still damn high, I think that it's much better to play NL25 or just grind it out on NL2/NL5 and go directly to NL25, people there are pretty bad and rake isn't that crazy(although still pretty high)
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        02-06-2017 , 02:26 PM
        BTW, I think my goal to move to NL500z is pretty much impossible, even if I somehow ran hot on NL50-NL100, NL200, I wouldn't even get close to have a breakeven game in that stake, maybe I can't do it even in NL50. It's not a matter of bankroll, I'm still making very bad calls, sometimes bad valuebets(although rarely bluffing people who won't fold, which is a HUGE improvement in my game).

        I'm still a very bad poker player, so I'll focus on beating NL25, correcting my mistakes, building my bankroll slowly, as I improve, I'll think about moving to those stakes. There's no point in grinding it out just to dump the money to the guys above, it's much better to focus on improving, while making that cash so I can take safe shots, with more than 40 BI into an unknown stake.

        goal for this month is:

        [ ] get good at poker
        [ ] make less mistakes
        [ ] learn how to make good calls
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        02-06-2017 , 10:03 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
        [ ] 30k hands
        [ ] run good and move up to 25nl
        [ ] no fapping
        [ ] get laid

        Had a feeling he didn't have whatever he was trying to rep. It's great taking time to actually think about these spots instead of just auto folding like the old nit me. Couldn've ended worse I guess.

          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37604618

          Hero (BTN): $12.94 (129.4 bb)
          SB: $10.20 (102 bb)
          BB: $10.20 (102 bb)
          UTG: $34.52 (345.2 bb)
          MP: $13.86 (138.6 bb)
          CO: $10.70 (107 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 4
          3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $0.85, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.90, SB calls $1.05

          Flop: ($3.90) 4 K 2 (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $1.35, SB raises to $2.95, Hero calls $1.60

          Turn: ($9.80) 7 (2 players)
          SB bets $5.35 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.35

          River: ($20.50) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $20.50 pot ($0.92 rake)
          Final Board: 4 K 2 7 6
          Hero showed A 4 and won $9.79 (-$0.41 net)
          SB showed 4 A and won $9.79 (-$0.41 net)



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          Can you explain to me why u played this hand in the first place?
          Why would he not have Kx/any pair?
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          02-06-2017 , 10:27 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by dogarse
          This is the rake I've payed over fairly significant samples. HEM2 has no rake bb/100 stat so I calculated it manually.

          nl25Z FR 6.4/100
          nl25 FR 7.4/100
          nl50 FR 6.2/100

          I think hold'em manager 2 calcs net won? So rake has been deducted already?
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