Hey guys,

Im a very average 25nl player, would you say reading all of these articles will improve my game? Just glanced over the Double Barreling one, and it looks very helpful, just wondering if anyone has any experience of after/before reading them

Note: If I do it, I dont want to do it half arsed. If I read them, il read them all

I'm surprised you've got to 25nl without reading them lol. They're essential imo.

im been reading this conceps trought 10nl to 50nl and help a lot my game,i cant say one is better than other cause everyone of them have something to get and prove it in ur game.

"there is no books like COTW",ty to all the writters

sorry for my english

I can do 'building default lines'.

Booked.

Still looking for standard betsizing and restealing.

standard betsizing=PSB.

Restealing=Only when you have a solid read.

/thread

+1, don't overthink the micros, don't get FPS (they aren't folding)

I'm guessing that we need an author for the Baluga Theorem COTW that is 5 months late.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...0/index16.html

This. I get kind of nervous when I see the terms like "default lines" and "standard bet sizing" used in NLHE.

fwiw, most uNLers habitually have a "standard" bet size that is too small.

really? not to be argumentative, but I always see the exact opposite. Players bet too large and blow out 2nd best hands and make bluffs too expensive ime.

Well judging from the hundreds of uNL HH posts I've looked at over the past 2.5 years and a lot of hands played at 25NL/50NL in the past, it's been my experience that people miss out on a lot of value by betting too small. Especially on the flop where calling ranges are typically the widest.

Of course if you're really a short stacker it means you're a parasite who needs to GTFO of poker imho.

fair enough given the parameter i bolded

I do shortstack. This is actually the spare (maybe alter-ego?) account of a nice and known poster...so be kind good sir

If you're nice and well-known then you shouldn't hide behind an alter-ego account and let everyone know your short-stacking ways.

I have no reason to be nice to short-stackers. You guys are parasites and kill the game.

/thread.

Take a look at the value bet sizing of good players and draw your own conclusions.

I actually only use this account because I am on my spare laptop and hate switching back and forth (this is *Split* btw)

And shortstackers have like no games to parasite anymore! We can only parasite the little games that PS offers us.

LOL! My opinion of short stackers still holds even if it's you. If Durrrr short stacked I'd say the same thing to him......

Fair point about most tables being a 35BB min buy-in. Imo that is still too small and I'd like to see minimum 50BB tables the norm.

I'll never change my opinion of short stackers..... they drive me nuts sorry...

Regarding bet sizing.... my comments lacked detail, but cliffs are:

Against bad players at uNL (and SSNL) I think you can run an exploitative bet sizing strategy varying between big (PSB) for value bets and smaller for bluffs and get away with it because the players aren't paying attention/adjusting.

That said, against better players who react/adjust to bet sizes throughout the hand it's definitely important to assess the strength of the player's range when deciding how big to value bet or how big to bluff.

no worries. i agree whole-heartedly that shortstackers are parasites...but who am I to pass up an easy edge in an easy game? (and I don't 35bb stack...only 20bb). I personally think cap stacks (40bb) should be the table min across all tables...but I don't control that

Agreed on your cliffed details. but my sizing strat is totally different than a lot of the other players pulling similar WR's...so it goes back to "in poker there are a 100 different ways to win and beat the game"

also...I LOL that my name being what it is has gotten people mad...but if my name were "iKICKchildren" or "iHUMPguys" nobody would have said anything to me, lol

What games do you SS in?

Very true. My fundamentals have been influenced by a couple of HS players (I'm sure you can guess who at least one is.....) that advocate a totally different sizing style from what you play. Both seem to be working, so c'est la vie....

Either one of these would not bother me as much......

1.) the 20-50bb games on PS (100 and 200)

2.) OMGOMGOMGTHEBALUGAWHALE?!

3.) yea...I suppose i brought that upon myself, lol

Yeah that guy as well as slowhabit/kingsofcards/cts. Actually nolan, foxwoodsfiend, and DJ Sensei have been pretty key too.

makes sense. And I understand the logic behind their betsizing...I just select sizes that i feel work best given my style/game selection/opponents/etc

(PS...FWF and DJ = teh nuts)

Well there's more than one way to skin a cat.....

DJ seems like a pretty chill guy. FWF's poker thinking is at a level I'll likely never be at.... even if I play the game for another 25 years.