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Old 05-30-2017, 11:41 AM   #1
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Arrow Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

Hi, I wasn't sure whether to call or raise...?
Villain was 11/10 from 289 hands

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37743743

MP1: $1.56 (78 bb)
MP2: $2.51 (125.5 bb)
MP3: $0.88 (44 bb)
Hero (CO): $2.78 (139 bb)
BTN: $2 (100 bb)
SB: $2.67 (133.5 bb)
BB: $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A J :: ::
MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, BTN raises to $0.27, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.19

Flop: ($0.59) 4 7 4 (2 players)
BTN bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.31) 2 (2 players)
BTN bets $0.82,

Hero?
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:56 AM   #2
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

Would raise here. He only has $0.55 behind, so it's highly doubtful he's folding the big overpair he's representing for that price imo (though I have a feeling he might do, as this thread exists). I guess he could fold an overpair with no spade some of the time, but I find it hard to believe he would bet 60% of his stack here to then fold to a shove. There is of course a high chance we'll get it all on the river anyway, but one of the spades left in the deck could kill the action. I see little long time reward in just calling, though it's probably only marginally worse than showing. Most of the time this situation gives full value either way.
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Old 05-30-2017, 02:20 PM   #3
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

What are you afraid of here? Looks like an overpair that you're now ahead of. Very very rare are you getting 3! Pre with 77. Just jam and collect.

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Old 05-30-2017, 02:45 PM   #4
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

As Cat guessed i think, i did shove and then vilain folded so was worried missed value but i guess that is retrospective thoughts

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Old 05-30-2017, 03:07 PM   #5
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

I see what you mean. I'd consider how many rivers you would get value from when thinking about a flat call. Just given stack sizes I agree with his assesment. Does villain shut down on a fourth spade? If he's got an overpair you certainly get paid sometimes but that same hand is probably priced in to call on your turn shove. Wouldn't feel bad about the move at all from a value perspective.

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Old 05-30-2017, 09:44 PM   #6
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

Jam in case he likes to fold to 4th spade, other than that it doesn't matter either way as he is not folding 88+ here
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:35 AM   #7
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

Cheers

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Old 06-04-2017, 08:50 PM   #8
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Re: Call or raise? (2NL Flush decision Vs Rock)

11/10 is so tight.... fold pre? if he is a 11/10 with 7%3bet call and catch this flop.

flop is a ship, fold out AQ/AK, flip vs KK and almost dead vs aces...

as palyed ship the turn not much left and he can check back rivers....if you dont put the rest in by donk xx
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