what do u think who are the biggest winners in the 25z pool?
and do u think these 12/10 player have a WR pre RB? or do some of them even have a good WR?

JumpxImDTramp biggest bb winner

lul

There's no way a 12/10 can be a solid winner in 2017. In 2007 definitely. In 2012 maybe. In 2017 no way.

Not even joking, he absolutely crushes the pool @7bb over a big sample. No.1 in the league

I'm 12bb tho this month but only this month, only 2-3bb over big sample

There is a small percent that actually are. If you have a super solid post flop game then those pre flop stats just mean you aren't maximizing ur potential as a winner. You can however win playing 12/10 in today's 25z pool. Remember Danuuutz?

i agree with that, u can def be winning playing 12/10 with solid postflop plays.
12bb/100 is ridic :P

im 4.7bb/100 this month. shooting nl50z 6max. Wish me luck

good to see the discussions in my thread are inspiring people
gl!

thx for replies guys.

i guessed its some1 like jumper or rosh, but actually i tought there would be any1 with a 8bb+ WR, but seems to be hard to reach such a WR. Maybe except for a Player whose main game ist +2 Limits above.

12bb is insane Rosh, cg for this month. What sample?

Anyone who crushes for 8bb is wasting their time and can probably beat 100NL for > 2bb which from rakeback alone is already better. Unless they can't stomach the swings at higher stakes.

Idk man, I used to know grinders like Polivianov and Bossi22 who were the biggest crushers at 50z fr for like 5bb/100+ but weren't able to win at 50z 6max if their lives depended on it.

The switch is so ****ing hard to make, from fr to 6max...

Elsa, if i remember correctly, you made that transition. What would be some tips that you would tell your past self when you jumped to 6max.

Btw i love your pg thread, glglgl!

Anyone else in here playing 6 max these days? I'm on the 25nl regular tables (and finally on Stars after all these years)

day off work today so i thought i would look at stars, 39k players, 10am here in the UK but i can't remember ever seeing it this low

time to battle some eastern Europeans at the micros

husker,

yes 10nl reg tables

Correction, 12bb was that sample of 35k hands that I posted above.

Actually only 6.15bb for the month, 80k hands

got to flop sets when it counts, works wonder for my BB WR

I dunno how 6 max is so stupidly hard. It is literally FR without EP. The only possible reason would be a worse fish to reg ratio.

It may be FR without EP but the reality is it plays pretty differently. The blinds come round quicker so there's more aggression based around fighting for and defending them. Wrt to fish, it's actually easier to target them in 6max.

I think sometimes FR players overadjust to the increased aggression initially, I think I was probably guilty of that.

Sunday is my last day at the 9-5, poker full time after that + applying for masters program. Hope the stars changes aren't too drastic to kill my little hustle in the interim while i figure my life out.

p.s 6max isn't that much harder, i'de say reduce tables & just focus more on the mistakes players make. Easy to identify spots regs overcall vs overfold imo.

Exo do you still play without hud?

There's way way more fish/whales in the 6max games ainec

What Husker said is pretty much bang on. Constantly being in the action and not adjusting properly from FR is the tough part. Its even worse in zoom games due to the speed when multi tabling. I prefer normal tables much more in 6max vs zoom whereas in FR I find normal/zoom pretty much the same.

Also the steal vs re-steal game plays a lot differently pre & post in 6m

I personally become way too aggro in 6max

At first, but i do play with hud now & prefer it. Alot of non hud reads can be made but so much things you can't identify without the hud that no way for me to not use it. I do min samples for 3bet% etc though cause those stats are worthless without a huge sample, mostly vpip/pfr is what i use tbh. If stars changes are too expensive to play zoom there then i may try party poker fast fold format which is anon tables and no hud, so we will see.

from what benabadbeat said it's literally the same game.

YOu are just more often in Lp's which makes it look like it's a different game because u have to 3b "more" ( when in reality u are 3betting the same range if u are solid and not going full ****** just because it's 6max )

Pretty much this.

Tyty

I guess it's different for every player. Mental game factor is much more important in 6max than in fr.

Not leveling myself too much would be something that I would tell my past self for sure. And to continue FOLDING RIVERS as we all do in fr.

People think 6max is kind of a hood game where you need to show off your red line. This is fake news lol. You make money by folding rivers, blue line ALL THE WAY.

And also, need to value bet thinly, something that I would almost never do in fr.

And learn to play from the blinds. Bvb spots become soooo important.

glgl to you too

And yeah, this is all true.

While you're here, do you mind offering some advice

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=874

Option 1 could be the cheapest and the most efficient, but you need to know yourself.

Like, have you ever applied properly what coaching vids teach? Have you been able to implement some basic 6max strat just from watching a video?

Because it seems easy and all, but it's actually super hard in game.

Option 2 is good and wouldn't cost you that much; probably need two 1 hour sessions to go over something like that, tops 3.

Option 3: PIO is close to worthless for anything under 100nl and even then... I would not go down that path right now. It's an overkill and would complicate stuff when it can be very simple.

Option 4: you could do the review on your own, and like look at all your resteal oop spots and try to learn from that. Adjust your ranges and then experiment while playing. Trial and error basically.