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Old 06-16-2017, 12:41 PM   #1
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50NL 6Max - Playing a draw OOP - How badly did I play this?

Let's start with the hand:

No Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50
4 players

Stacks:
UTG - UTG ($81.13)
BTN - BTN ($59.16)
SB - SB ($19.50)
BB - Hero ($71.68)

Preflop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is BB with 6 2
UTG raises to $1.25, 1 fold, SB calls $1.00, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: Q 5 4 ($3.75, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $2.00, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.00

Turn: K ($7.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $6.50, Hero raises to $18.00, UTG calls $11.50

River: J ($43.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $35.00, UTG raises to $59.88 (all-in), 1 fold, Uncalled bet of $24.88 returned to UTG

Total Pot: $113.75
UTG mucks

UTG wins $111.75

Villain seemed to be a LAG - VPIP of low/mid 30s over 100+ hands.

Here was my thinking roughly (please tell me how bad it was, you won't hurt my feelings) on a few streets:

1) Deep stacked (150bb effective) I think this is a decent, if a bit loose, call pre flop.

2) On the flop we have a gutshot and backdoor FD, call may be a little loose, but we are also rather deep and I think this call is OK - especially given he has a VPIP of 33% and is going to cbet this type of board texture a lot.

3) Turn - we pick up the FD too - my thought here is just raise and end it (hopefully) - essentially a semi-bluff - was my raise sizing too small? I think he is capable of double barreling alot and there is a good chance this pressure ends the hand.

4) We brick the river - I am thinking I need to check/fold this maybe 2/3 of time and bluff 1/3 of time, I decided this was a time to hold my nose and bluff it. In hindsight, I don't think my bluff really tells a convincing story other than maybe trying to represent mid set or something. Maybe I should have bluffed all-in and not left anything behind, but once he calls that turn check-raise, I think we are in hot water.

I didn't do a good job putting Villain on a range here - I am not sure what he calls my turn re-raise with. Maybe two pair or a set? Maybe its super obvious I'm on a semi-bluff and he's just making the call with a K or Q here. He's PFR 33% here so big range, I think that is a super common board to cbet and that texture is good for a CBET so that's part of the reason I called flop. What does he double barrel here then make the call with??

Anyway - any advice on how you would play this, or how I could have played it better, or thoughts on how I could put villain on a better range would be super helpful.

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Old 06-16-2017, 04:22 PM   #2
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Re: 50NL 6Max - Playing a draw OOP - How badly did I play this?

I did just call in turn and see the river and think about it. I think he calls with Q or even a K with a small kicker. I think the bet in the flop good too, it was a weird spot, but I did just call on the turn and check/fold river.
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:32 PM   #3
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Re: 50NL 6Max - Playing a draw OOP - How badly did I play this?

First thing I would look for when doing this kind of thing is villian tendencies, what is their wtsd, aggression, etc. Pre is too loose, you are hoping to hit a 6 high flush or a non-nut straight 150bb deep and that is not going to play well. OTT he basically has AK, 2pair and sets, maybe like 67s, a few diamond combos (which you are dead to anyway) for bluffs or something. In other words he is usually very strong here, and even his weakest value hand, tptk, is capable of calling turn and river depending on v (e.g. loose, stationy). Flop is ok. After he calls turn he is getting a pretty good price on river and with all factors considered I think giving up on river is much better.
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:05 PM   #4
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Re: 50NL 6Max - Playing a draw OOP - How badly did I play this?

Good pts about the flush and straight being bad even when they hit - but at least the straight I felt was kinda out of his range here. Villain was very aggressive like 70% aggression factor or so.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:05 PM   #5
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Re: 50NL 6Max - Playing a draw OOP - How badly did I play this?

Fold at every step. It's a no brainer that you aren't getting the pot odds to call on all three streets. If someone's super aggro you shouldn't be defending 62 suited against them. That's an easy way to get stacked. There are way better times to make a stand than with trash in the BB.

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