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2NL Should I bet slightly more here to get my opponent to fold? 2NL Should I bet slightly more here to get my opponent to fold?

07-07-2017 , 08:14 AM
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 200 BB (VPIP: 11.48, PFR: 7.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 123)
BTN: 92 BB (VPIP: 10.75, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 94)
SB: 94 BB (VPIP: 20.25, PFR: 8.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 80)
BB: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 34)
UTG: 165 BB (VPIP: 14.85, PFR: 12.87, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 102)
UTG+1: 107.5 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 12.22, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 91)
MP: 144 BB (VPIP: 22.41, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
Hero (MP+1): 139.5 BB
MP+2: 137.5 BB (VPIP: 24.24, PFR: 24.24, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 34)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, MP raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 4 J 7
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 3
MP bets 5.5 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

River: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 8
MP checks, Hero bets 11 BB, MP calls 11 BB

Hero shows A 9 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 32%, Flop 46%, Turn 27%)
MP shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 54%, Turn 73%)
MP wins 48.5 BB


Should I bet slightly more here to get my opponent to fold?
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07-07-2017 , 08:43 AM
In position with that draw I'd be C-betting the flop, especially after 3 betting pre and getting checked to.

As played there isn't much in your holding that suddenly gets better on the river, particularly after you've 3-bet pre and played so passively on the flop and turn, so it looks quite bluffy. Small sizing doesn't help, but I think you need to try taking this pot down earlier.

When you get to the river the A high isn't such a bad hand to just check as it has some, although minimal, showdown value.

Incidentally...this hand could have been against me, but I'd need to check my stats :P
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07-07-2017 , 09:30 AM
I'm representing a J with my river bet.
Would play the hand the same if I actually had one ...
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07-07-2017 , 11:31 AM
Bad spot to bet the river.

Of course, it was also not a great spot to 3 bet pre, or check the flop either.

You can't rep a jack on the river when you check back the flop after 3 betting, and then flat a tiny turn bet. Villain checked the river planning to call you. Your line makes no sense.
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07-07-2017 , 01:16 PM
this is a really good spot to go for bet/bet/bet after that 3bet pre.

Just curious though, why 3bet the A9s? Villain didnt seem to have that loose of a PFR, are you 3betting A2s-A8s as well? we might be 3bet bluffing way too much here vs a strong range if thats the case.
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07-07-2017 , 06:51 PM
I'm 3betting a lot of suited aces yeah.
Think I have been 3betting too much and have been cutting it down a lot.

I thought my hand was over when my 3bet bluff got called.
Didn't even notice the flush draw.

Tried to bluff the river since villain was showing a lot of weakness.
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07-08-2017 , 04:24 AM
I think this hand is too weak to 3bet from this position given there are players to act behind.

However you just have to bet that flop.
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07-08-2017 , 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aapokermasteraa
this is a really good spot to go for bet/bet/bet after that 3bet pre.

Just curious though, why 3bet the A9s? Villain didnt seem to have that loose of a PFR, are you 3betting A2s-A8s as well? we might be 3bet bluffing way too much here vs a strong range if thats the case.
i like this. in 3 bet pots you can set yourself up for a river shove by betting 1/2 pot otf and ott. this will leave you a size you can jam the river.
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07-08-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HorsePower
i like this. in 3 bet pots you can set yourself up for a river shove by betting 1/2 pot otf and ott. this will leave you a size you can jam the river.
Are we ever bluffing 3 streets in 2NL though?
I'm not tbh ...
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07-08-2017 , 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeodan
Are we ever bluffing 3 streets in 2NL though?
I'm not tbh ...
i do.

i think it works because of this exact line of thinking.
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07-08-2017 , 06:01 PM
pre-flop: I don't think this hand is strong enough to isolate given that there are three more players who could potentially have position on you. I'd probably just call his weird 2BB bet

flop: why didn't you c-bet? Your hand has a ton of equity at this point. You can take the hand down straight away and even if he calls you could possibly have 12 outs to beat him. By checking you're completely eliminating that first way of winning.

to answer your question: I don't think betting more on the river would have made a difference. Villain was eager to see a showdown and was in c/call mode (aided by the fact that it was less likely you had the J or an overpair since you didn't c-bet the flop)
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07-09-2017 , 04:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aapokermasteraa
i do.

i think it works because of this exact line of thinking.
Against 2+2ers, yeah, against the average 2NL player, not so sure ...
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07-09-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Against 2+2ers, yeah, against the average 2NL player, not so sure ...
yeah, I'm more willing to 3 barrel bluff regs for sure.

I play on ACR and there are alot of regs on there.
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