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2NL - KJ on K8QK board - J on the river - facing a lot of aggression 2NL - KJ on K8QK board - J on the river - facing a lot of aggression

07-12-2017 , 02:42 PM
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 187 BB (VPIP: 10.57, PFR: 8.94, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 248)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 36)
CO: 155 BB (VPIP: 19.37, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.41, Hands: 223)
BTN: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 24.05, PFR: 15.19, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 244)
Hero (SB): 136.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) K 8 Q
Hero bets 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 7 BB, CO raises to 22.5 BB, Hero calls 15.5 BB

River: (59 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 57 BB, CO raises to 114 BB, Hero calls 50.5 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
CO shows K Q (Full House, Kings full of Queens)
(Pre 75%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows K J (Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
(Pre 25%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
CO wins 264.5 BB


I'm putting villain on AA, AK, KQ, KJ, K8s, QQ, 88 by the river.

Assuming that range, I have 39% on the turn, which seems like a clear call given the pot odds.

On the river I have 82% against that range.

Is this correct, or am I running into KQ here like always?
2NL - KJ on K8QK board - J on the river - facing a lot of aggression Quote
07-12-2017 , 03:49 PM
why are we leading flop and why are we potting river vs aggressor...
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07-12-2017 , 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagpuss
why are we leading flop and why are we potting river vs aggressor...
Think he had a low cbet.
And want to get value out of my J on the river.
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07-12-2017 , 06:23 PM
Not sure why you donked the flop or the river.

On the river: Any weird busted draws/bluffs aren't going to call your bet but may possibly bet if you check to them. Any other full houses are going to be betting for sure. AK or K10 might check behind if you didn't bet but I doubt it. Overall I think check/shoving is the right play here.
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07-13-2017 , 03:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brussels Sprout
Not sure why you donked the flop or the river.
Just told you, for value.
Villain's stats weren't very aggressive, so donking should be fine.
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07-13-2017 , 05:00 AM
I grunch posts so didn't read your response to the other poster.
A 19/11 pre-flop player doesn't seem very loose-passive to me but then again it’s very possible he plays differently pre and post flop.
I don’t donk very often but I think a suitable candidate for a value type donk bet would need to have a low AF, c-bet and fold to donk/c-bet.
I’d suspect that a 19/11 with a low c-bet is more than likely a fit-or-fold player. Donking someone like that is just turning your hand into a bluff.
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07-13-2017 , 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brussels Sprout
I grunch posts so didn't read your response to the other poster.
A 19/11 pre-flop player doesn't seem very loose-passive to me but then again it’s very possible he plays differently pre and post flop.
I don’t donk very often but I think a suitable candidate for a value type donk bet would need to have a low AF, c-bet and fold to donk/c-bet.
I’d suspect that a 19/11 with a low c-bet is more than likely a fit-or-fold player. Donking someone like that is just turning your hand into a bluff.
On the flop I'm getting value from worse K's, Q's and straight draws, maybe even some other weird hands, against a villain with a low cbet.
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07-13-2017 , 01:43 PM
KJ OOP against a somewhat tight player isn't a great hand to cold call a raise preflop.
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