BossMedia Game #1418081070: Table Table TH 432 - €0.25/€0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:19:35 - 2009/01/20
Seat 3: HERO (€52.35)
Seat 2: moro922 (€95.40)
Seat 5: .BRBuster (€54.75)
Seat 1: kormation (€98.60)
Seat 4: firebr (€41.35)
grolsch199 posts the big blind of €0.50
moro922 posts the small blind of €0.25
kormation is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[6 6]
firebr folds
.BRBuster folds
kormation raises €2.00
moro922 folds
HERO raises €7.00
kormation calls €7.00
*** FLOP *** [4 7 J]
HERO bets €10.00
kormation calls €10.00
*** TURN *** [4 7 J] [T]
HERO checks
kormation checks
*** RIVER *** [4 7 J T] [T]
HERO checks
kormation bets €14.00
HERO ???

Villain was a very bad player . He was playing 40/15/1.3 . His Attempt to steal was around 42%. He was opening every button so far and i didnt 3bet him until this hand and i decided to look how he is reacting to 3bets with any2. I catched 66 what i considered a decent hand compared to any2. He quickly called my 3bet. Plan for the flop was to bet/fold (I dont like my betsizing here afterwards by the way. ) as villain played very "straightforward" (for a bad player like him that means calling draws and underpairs or overcards and raising TPGK+) postflop so far. On the turn i give him a range of overcards, PP and some slowplayed stuff. My plan on the turn was to check/fold and eventually check/call a river without an A, K, Q . I liked the ten on the river and i made the call. What would you do??

I call here but I'm really not sure how good it is. I can't really put him on a hand and if you can't figure out what someone is representing, then they're probably bluffing. It looks like he could show up with AK type hands and just random trash quite a bit, but I also expect that we're losing to some really ridiculous fishy type hands too. I think you're getting something like 2.5:1 on the call, and he's obviously really bad, so I call.

i still only call/fold 6's pre but if you have a read its not bad. id still like to be 3betting with even 64s rather than the pocket 6s though.

problem is villian is garbage he is going to be floating you with a bunch of crap when you 3bet here. I defintely CBet this if a A/K/Q hits but so many villians at this level will go 'oh you have AK i call with my pocket nines'.

What was his fold to CBet %?

I probably fold to this river bet unless he's been betting the river a bunch but i dont see him betting here with anything you beat.

why did you 3 bang 66? vs that guy, you need a guy who can fold pre/or fold post

From his sizing it doesnt look like he expects you to fold much. Donks do make "scared" bluffs like this sometimes though so idk, but I probably fold w/out a read as I see players like this showing up w/ KJ, JQ, even 88 or 99 here making a weird wtf do i do "blocker" bet. FWIW, I thought flop betsizing was alright, what didnt you like about it?

well what can he have that beats us here, other than an over pair or a 10/J.. Would he be valuebetting 8s or 9s, because if that is in his valuebetting range then we most likely are beat here. The only thing that we can really hero call against is AK/AQ, but he might even 4bet AK pre here (reads?) , so that means the only thing we really are beating here is KQ, AQ, which is a small part of his range.

But I think his range is a lot wider than this, he's a 40/15 so he's not just calling 3-bets with KQ, AQ, and AK, he'll show up with trash a lot of the time. This is the type of board that a bag LAGfish is going to be making moves on because he thinks you don't have anything.

I think 7 € could also do the job!

He is never ever valubetting that thin. And i think he would bet a jack on the turn. I saw him c/c underpairs some pots before and raising TPGk every time!

because i wanted to test him. No one contested him in a 3bet pot before. I wanted to see if he can fold. He couldnt. Next time i wont 3bet him with 66.

i think this is being results oriented.

10/14 = 71% of pot. That is fine

meh, i'd think if he was gonna bluff he'd do it on the turn. i really hate 3betting super spazmos with hands like this oop. they call too much and your hand is gonna be mostly worthless on most flops.

While I agree it's not good to 3-bet super spazmos light, I don't think it's bad to do it once just to see how they react. There's not a large sample size on him so he could be a good LAG player who knows how to fold to 3-bets.

FYP.

But yeah this obv all day

The only things that you beat here are like, AQ,KQ, and like K9,Q9 sort of hands that he probably will give up with preflop... So combinatorically almost any suited connector (including 89 down to as low as 57) just crushes us. Hence I would probably happily fold this, unless you had some read that he is showing up with something ridiculous here.

I think this is where a lot of micro stakes players make mistakes in their thought process - you dont actually need 66 to 3bet the BTN opener; the hand instead has too much value (in set mining).

Instead 3bet your trashier hands when making this play; stuff like 86o, k9o etc (ideal against loose openers with very high fold to 3bet %)