Hi everyone!

I have a very simple question that maybe 1 or 2 of you can answer. Am I allowed to make prop bets with other players at the WSOP who are sharing the same table?

I don't see why not?

As long you aren't slowing down the game. You and whatever player can make whatever bet you'd like.

So suppose we are at the WSOP Main Event final table between Scotty Nguyen and Phil Hellmuth (however unlikely). Phil Hellmuth limps with K-K and Scotty looks down to see pocket Aces, he raises, Phil Hellmuth re-raises and Scotty Nguyen goes all in- Phil calls.....

Before the flop is being dealt, Scotty Nguyen has a 'bad feeling' with his hand and is sure he will somehow wind up getting his Aces cracked. So, he proposes a 'prop' bet with Phil Hellmuth and lays him 3:1 that he will lose this pot for a million dollar bet. Phil Hellmuth cant resist those odds and takes him up on the bet. Scotty Nguyen indeed gets his aces cracked and Phil Hellmuth pays him 3 million dollars for the bad beat.....

Is this allowed?

You can make private prop bets all you like, although the Rio isn't going to enforce them like they would on an actual wager with the casino obviously, and you may have to hand over the money away from the table depending how strict the dealers are

That's not laying 3-1 it's taking 3-1. Phil probably wouldn't accept.

Why not, A-A vs K-K is about an 82 percent favourite to win, in any case lets just say he is TAKING 2.5:1 then......

My point was, if this is ALLOWED, then that's as good as making a deal on the final table.... (which is prohibited) by spreading the risk that way, players can find a different way to spread the money between them.....

bottom line is they will never be able to enforce prohibiting prop bets between players. Its a free country bro.

Very untrue. I've been tossed from a US casino for making red/black bets. And 3 years ago the WSOP cash games made a ruling that you could no longer make deals like running it twice, etc. Don't know if they reinstated it later, I kept my promise to not play there again.

It would have been more accurate for him to say they can't completely enforce prop bans. You could have played red/black in that casino you'd have just had to have gone out of your way more than you wanted to. You could also insure hands whether they took certain methods of doing it away or not. Kind of a start of an argument for them to let the stuff happen in public rather than forcing the less public work-around but that's them I guess.

lol