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The Tale of 5 Guys, Zoe Quinn, phil_fish, and the Streisand effect. The Tale of 5 Guys, Zoe Quinn, phil_fish, and the Streisand effect.

08-22-2014 , 10:10 AM
So if you're not a regular of /r/gaming, Tumblr, or don't frequent /v/, there's a semi big story about corruption/hackusations going on right now.

Recently, a Word Press Article came out from Eron Gjoni, about the fact he's recently learned of the multiple affairs and sheer manipulations of Indie Game Developer and "feminist" SJW Zoe Quinn.

Immediately, the post was bombarded by Feminists lambasting the article and was deleted, but not before someone noticed something particular: All 5 men involved where all involved in Game develop and promotion: including her boss Joshua Boggs (who is married) and video game journalist Nathan Grayson, who writes for Kotaku and Rock, Paper, Shotgun. In an industry in which promotion can make or break you, this is red flag.

This lead to some further digging and which lead to the discover of several past events:
  • Zoe Quinn Accused the website and 4chan mirror Wizardchan of launching a crusade against her and her game.
  • This was later shown to be false, and more then likely Zoe raiding herself.
  • Zoe accused a charity game dev of misogyny to deep six a competing brand.
  • Zoe was "mugged" and placed a fundraiser on the internet. At the current time, this is believed to have been made up.
  • Zoe Quinn used the recent death of Robin Williams to promote her game, and was later shown to fake harassment for promotion. this was shown by tumblr User KC-Vidya-Rants
a full overview can be seen in


So all this comes out on 4chan, and reddit, and tumblr, which means it spreads like wildfire right? Clear conflict of interest, clear breach of ethics, easy story easy scoop?

NOT SO FAST. Here's where the real story begins.
Several reports made about the events in question suddenly 404 error, or are deleted and pulled by the user. Reddit Mod el_chupacupcake begins to mass delete and shadow ban people. Even 4chan's mods begin an assault on /v/ and /b/. And if there's one thing that'll rouse the beast that is anonymous, it's censorship. Videos on Youtube about the scandal are pulled down with a DCMA.


the five developers under attack, Zoe Quinn, and Phil_Fish, the developer of indie game Fez, begin their own offensives as well, attacking all who question them on Twitter.
Which leads up to the current version of the train wreck.

Obviously, this means Streisand Effect is going into full effect. As a result of the defensive stance of the mods, the mass deleting roused the snoops and discover Reddit Mod el_chupacupcake had exchanged messages before the events in question with Zoe Quinn.

As of right now, Reddit Mod el_chupacupcake has rounded the conversation onto a sticky on /r/gaming and is still deleting posts "deemed threatening to Zoe Quinn." the gobal mods have not seen fit to relive him of his abilities.


As stated Earlier, Zoe Quinn appears to be manipulative, using a victim's act to protect herself around a wall of feminists, as it were, and to profiteer from it.

It Appears as if Quinn has now done that too many times, and now, it might have caused no less then 4 felonies.
  • On August 19th, Quinn claimed that her Tumblr and Twitter page were both hacked and that she had been doxxed by users from /v/. The post has since been deleted.

Tumblr user The Spectacular Spider-Girl and /v/ pointed out several inconsistency with her "doxxing". This had lead to the idea of a fake doxxing by /v/ to rouse sympathy.
  • in addition, two telephone numbers also given with the information were found to have no link to Zoe Quinn.
  • The number listed as “Dad’s Work” even up going to a defunct motorcycle store.
  • The number that was listed as “zoe’s Cellphone” connected to a text to land line phone located in Hawaii.

Here's where it get's stupid legal:
Phil Fish also claimed to have gotten hacked by /v/. Phil was already unliked for his childish attitude and narcissism. (one of his more recent tirades include BERATING AND SHAMING SOMEONE WHO CLAIMED JOE QUINN SEXUALLY HARASSED THEM AT A WEDDING)

Obviously, when Phil came to her defense, it had an opposite effect: Phil was now guy #6 on the Zoe Quinn screw list. And then... this happened.

on august 21:

was posted on /v/. It contained a link to zip file, which has been censored by /v/ for legal defense.

Included in the file is the source file of the game itself.

Along with Financial information, and even his social security and the information of employees at polytron. Phil has stated this was part of an attack by /v/ for coming to aid of Zoe Quinn.

which means several crimes have been commited

1.) the theft of an IP
2.) the distribution of employee information
3.) Cyber Terrorism.

There's only one problem.

If /v/ is to be believed, Zoe Quinn may have just made Phil_Fish commit 2 more felony crimes.

one of the major things is the incredibly inconsistent MO with /v/ and anonymous; mistakes like declaring themselves head mod (which would make them moot.), the capitalization of v in /v/, incorrectly stating anonymous' slogan (which should read "we do not forgive, we do not forget." not "ever.")


as the following image details, there's the bit of the host and actually hacking the website itself.

Hosting site and it's encryption are top notch and well known by anonymous. Why? It's the same host as 4chan's. whoops.

So as of right now, Phil's Doxxing argument had better stand up

because he's now looking at 4 separate felonys:
  • Falsifying the accusation of felony
  • breach of contract with Sony, microsoft, and Steam
  • cyber terrorism
  • posting his employees information online

And this is currently where we stand.


someone just committed 4 different felonies.
All to save a girl who had 5 guys.


The full story as it's currently known can actually be found on http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/quinnspiracy
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08-22-2014 , 11:14 AM
a few different points of view that don't take the unflinching side of the attackers:

http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/0...sment-machine/

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/zoe-qui...g-sex-scandal/

Seriously though, all the "proof" for any of this stuff in the OP seems to be some random pissed off guy's ranty youtubez video. So excuse me for not taking his word as the bible truth.

(Actually, I do, since i think the bible is made up)
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08-22-2014 , 06:54 PM
I feel bad that you typed all that up because I did not understand any of it.

Who is the bad guy? Zoe Quinn? Phil Fish?


Was there actually any cheeseburgers involved in the story? Or a video game about a cheeseburger restaurant? Or was the "Five Guys" thing because she slept with 5 guys? Or did she even sleep with them at all and that was part of the conspiracy?

Feel free to not answer these questions, since I probably won't understand the answers either.
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08-22-2014 , 07:15 PM
Five Guys is what the redit folks disguised their threads as since threads about Zoe were getting closed on redit, and they needed some way to band together and totally not harass or disparage her. And also how dare a girl have more than 3 sexual partners? Clutching my pearls.
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08-22-2014 , 07:43 PM
More than 1, I'm sure you meant to say
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08-22-2014 , 08:29 PM
:nod:
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08-22-2014 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
a few different points of view that don't take the unflinching side of the attackers:

http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/0...sment-machine/

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/zoe-qui...g-sex-scandal/

Seriously though, all the "proof" for any of this stuff in the OP seems to be some random pissed off guy's ranty youtubez video. So excuse me for not taking his word as the bible truth.

(Actually, I do, since i think the bible is made up)
Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...g_and_general/

Reddit mod talking to Zoe moment before the censorship


the tumblr post discrediting the first doxxing:


Censorship of articles 1:


Zoe Quinn's "questionings" on TFYC


Zoe quinn gets caught trying to rouse /v/


Zoe Quinn C&D


the problem with Zoe Quinn's Raid attempts.



Your counter evidence is a feminist website and dailydot, which is linked to her.
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08-22-2014 , 08:56 PM
Oh, almost forgot:
the picture mentioned.
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08-22-2014 , 09:22 PM
This seems like it could be a really interesting and cool story if I knew what even 1/2 of this **** meant. I'm clueless.
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08-23-2014 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DC11GTR
This seems like it could be a really interesting and cool story if I knew what even 1/2 of this **** meant. I'm clueless.
edit TL: DR

It's on know your meme
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/quinnspiracy
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08-23-2014 , 12:41 AM
As for the fish part
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08-23-2014 , 01:58 AM
what are any of these screen shots supposed to "prove"?


like, is that the proof her nutty ex-boyfriend claimed PROVED that she had sex with said guy? Because she was drinking a beer in proximity to a male?
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08-23-2014 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
what are any of these screen shots supposed to "prove"?


like, is that the proof her nutty ex-boyfriend claimed PROVED that she had sex with said guy? Because she was drinking a beer in proximity to a male?
http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

it's gotten painfully obvious you're defending Zoe, btw. Kotaku already tried to lie about the dates when these affairs occurred, effectively admitting these affairs are real.
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08-23-2014 , 06:57 AM
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08-23-2014 , 08:31 AM
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08-23-2014 , 09:00 AM
I dunno I guess I would probably at least have to know what /v/ (or is it capital V?) is to start to understand it.
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08-23-2014 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by His Boy Elroy
I dunno I guess I would probably at least have to know what /v/ (or is it capital V?) is to start to understand it.
there's not much to get. /v/ is the video game board of 4chan. So, a new story like that has some vested interest. It wasn't much until /v/'s own mods tried to contain it.

Considering the mods are openly mocked and ridiculed by the boards with the phrase ">HE DOES IT FOR FREE." you can guess how well that turned out.

the thing is, mods are global, and everybody knows 4chan's head admin posts under the admin name Moot, and owns the site.

which is why saying your the head of /v/ made no sense to people.

Last edited by unicorn_lord; 08-23-2014 at 09:45 AM.
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08-23-2014 , 10:17 AM
on a side note: the Game Jam that TFYC claimed was doxxed by Zoe has been funded and supported by 4chan. support is being garnered by the hashtag #4chan4woman
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08-23-2014 , 10:41 AM
so wait is 4chan the bad guy? what is doxxed?
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08-23-2014 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by His Boy Elroy
so wait is 4chan the bad guy? what is doxxed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing

4chan is on the FBI's watch list (dating back to when /b/ used to have spam attacks of Child porngraphy, bomb threats, and a number of doxxing and raids.) so it's kinda easy to go "well, 4chan did it."

Last edited by unicorn_lord; 08-23-2014 at 11:02 AM.
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08-23-2014 , 11:09 AM
jesus its making less and less sense as i read more. im tapping out.
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08-23-2014 , 11:34 AM
Cliffs: Some nerds on a gaming site are mad they all banged the same woman who wanted nothing to do with them and used them.
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08-23-2014 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by His Boy Elroy
I dunno I guess I would probably at least have to know what /v/ (or is it capital V?) is to start to understand it.
Just skimming through the thread I'm pretty sure I understand it well enough.

Spoiler:
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08-23-2014 , 11:40 AM
Super cliffs:fugly gaming dork skank is a skank
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08-23-2014 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by salesbeast
Cliffs: Some nerds on a gaming site are mad they all banged the same woman who wanted nothing to do with them and used them.
That's it? I gave up, but thought it might have been more interesting then that had I kept with it.
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