Intel had begun pulling pulling their ads from Gamesutra

Leigh Alexander everybody!

Leigh Alexander everybody!

Also Richard Dawkins has thrown his hat in the ring, stated this exact same thing happened to him and the Atheist movement: Anybody remember Atheist+?

is this like that time your fellow 4channers hacked zoe's twitter and started posting a bunch of crazy stuff that you immediately thought was true?

I feel like the forum should put in a button that shows up after you click "post reply" that says

"No one cares or understands who any of these people are, any of your acronyms, or what any of this even means. Do you still want to post that?"

and apply it only to this thread.

i don't think that bothers unicorn porn lord

Leigh Alexander called some men "hood" on twitter though! Why don't all you men care about this obvious oppression that is keeping is all down!

I could be free of I didn't have this obsessive compulsive disorder that forces me to scour the Internet for the most obscure things to get offended about!

nobody hacked zoe's twitter.

try harder.

want me to post where she supporting illegal information gather? And harassment of a transgender teen?

Or when she publicly berated a bartender and got her fired the same way gamer gate is?

Or how she belong to the same PR firm that started the whole gamer gate mess?

How about when Leigh openly threaten to blacklist people?

Meanwhile, in "good people" camp Anias supports.

Your missing the point. Even if all that was true, and not some 4chan conspiracy that you guys cooked up, nobody that spends more time talking to women in real life than they do pretending to be oppressed by women online would give a ****.

It's also been established that if everything the gaters say about gamergate is true, it basically amounts to the inconvenience of having to buy games retail so they can return games that were scored highly only because of dirty sex.

An inconvenience that is far less inconvenient that furiously trying to "prove" whether or not the conspiracy theories are true based solely on 4chan conjecture.

I get it, it's easier to bitch at faceless people online than return a game and have to engage in human to human contact. I feel for you bros but it's in the best interests of your mental health to not obsessive over ever little thing you find offensive on the Internet. The Internet will literally provide you an infinite amount of things to get pissed off about.

Unplug and get outside, it's a beautiful world out there.

That is unfortunate that guy blew up at Alexander like that, it really isn't that hard to NOT call someone a 'stupid bitch'

I love the irony of Anius saying Jpegs don't count as evidence, and then calling us 4 channers for no reason at all..

Also what's the deal with gregorio? He was really anti GG in the OOT thread, and then the other day I saw he posted this in the celeb nude thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1495

Moo buckets, I call y'all 4channers because all your evidence somehow magically all happens to be jaypegs from 4chan. Uniporn lord even lied about not being a 4channer until I found his twitter, chock full of his own admission that he gets loads of pics from the site.

You guys aren't cleverly disguised liars. You're just bad liars. The adults in the room have you figured out.

Except they did

Not the first time you've shown yourself a fact-denying, blatant liar itt.

What is the question you think you are asking here?

Oh hi. Someone linked me to this post and I have no idea what the thread is about so I'm not sure in what context you are asking what my deal is, but anyway, I'm happy to respond. I don't know what anti-GG means so I can't confirm or deny. Not sure what the big deal is about me posting a message from the people leaking the celeb photos, but I apologize if that comes across as offensive.

[citation needed]

The hacks have already been massively debunked by 8 different website and entities.

You're just a moron.


edit: also, it's been a month, try to get with the program, shill.

you're supporting openly racist, bigoted people who are insulting their fan base, got caught redhanded doing it, and are now going "muh soggy knee" so weakly it's become the SJW Godwin Theory.

Yeah...this

I think that's at the heart of all this for those of us making an honest attempt to read about it.

So at the end of the day, the issue is that some game reviewing sites may be sleeping with/taking bribes from game developers directly or via PR firms? Yeah I mean, that sucks for journalism, but lol gaming journalism, just play demos first.

Even if all these sites (save for The Escapist I think, which is nice because it's a fun site) are on the take, I don't get this level of outrage coming from that.

Which is weird because I've talked with more women about gamer gate while on a MLP project then guys. they were all keeping up as if they were 50% of the audience....

but naaaaaaahh there's no studies that say your blanket statement about gamers being all male is ******ed and sexist.

I mean holy ****, it's not like there was a tag specifically started like... oh I dunno, #notyourshield, to call out your sexism.

so you're saying charging entrants 500 dollars to enter a award show like IGF, so you could use it as an earn promotion. and it then came out it was rigged to support people in line with a PR firm, Absolute nothing wrong there.

That your development was actively and openly threatened by this same group of people, there's nothing wrong there as well?

That in investigating this said group will result in your personal information leaked and given to an angry mob to silence you?

That openly cenorship of conversation, the belittlement of your own audience, while supporting people who have incredibly shading past because they'll label you a pedophile for even questioning them?


THAT'S ****ING FINE WITH YOU?

Full tilt was a great company, wasn't it?

I mean ****, what we've learned this month is basically, these people were extortionists.

That the Reddit Mods were actively threatening their outspoken people with threats of pedophile suspicion

that NEOGAF was selling personal information to Kotaku without consent by randomly changing the TOS after they started.

And absolutely none of that hold's any issue for you.

Right, like someone said above, I have no idea what this means. I can piece together the context but who or what is IGF, what is a "earn promotion", etc. It's hard to the uninitiated to follow when the subject matter is so obscure.

Development of what? Again, don't assume your audience knows what your acronyms and pronouns refer to.

It seemed like the people who were having stuff leaked were not from your side. Like, even if Quinn made up/embellished things that happened to her, which it seems like she did, I'm not seeing where 4chaners or anyone from that side got got. I see where some websites deleted comments about it, and that's dumb, but it's dumb because this is the internet and just because you keep information off your site doesn't mean it goes away.
Again, lol internet censorship, and where is the second half of that coming from?
You seem really mad. Also you edit quickly.

No, it was bad, which is why, despite their best efforts to hide the truth, news of how awful it was got out and those people that got defrauded got/are getting their money back.

The thing that makes the FT story easy to understand for those that didn't play is that the mission statement is easy to understand:

FTP was a gaming site that claimed to be holding players money in escrow but really wasn't and stole from those players by mismanaging funds upwards of one hundred million dollars.

See, even if you barely understand that online gaming is a thing, you can understand what happened, who is involved, for how much and why it's wrong.

If I try to broad stroke this one I get:
"A bunch of gaming websites got too chumy with the gaming companies they were trying to report on, not unlike major news outlets being too influenced by companies that advertise with them."

That's obviously bad, but your level of outrage doesn't seem to fit.

Looks like you'll have to explain in crayons, UL.

Gizmo - Consider the signal/noise ratio of your posts please.

Gregorio - I wasn't offended by your post in the noodz thread, was that text copied from somewhere else, or is your 2p2 account run by a group of people called Kron0s team?

Anius - If you figured out UL goes to fourchan it doesn't explain why you think I do... I honestly don't. I've never once posted there and have only lurked maybe 3 - 5 times in my life.

I hate that dismissal "lol games journalism already sucked LOL", is there something wrong with standards? Why lower your expectations?

Lol, watch this (which seems to be essentially the same issue) and try and understand the need to present unfamiliar information in a non-nuanced way to reach a new audience: