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03-23-2011 , 04:26 PM
Calm the **** down, lonely, he's not worth it.


!!!! No that's not "basically" what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

Stop editing your post with more stupid!

It's not supposed to be impressive!!!!!!! you're already very dumb.

Penn and Teller aren't about tricking people, they're about using magic to get points across.

Last edited by lonely_but_rich; 03-23-2011 at 04:32 PM.
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03-23-2011 , 04:35 PM
Can't argue with a fool.

Welcome to my ignore list. Life is good.
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03-23-2011 , 04:38 PM
I'm going to go rage smash something.
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03-23-2011 , 04:42 PM
I'm gonna go with the nails not actually being sharp and having magnets at their tips. They're not shot out but just get pulled by the magnetized metal table, and stand up because of the magnet and don't actually enter the wood.
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03-23-2011 , 05:12 PM
The gun is sucking nails out of the board??? Even rapid fire, Penn is able to precisely line up the gun with the already-sunk nail?

It's amazing how wild people's imaginations get when they don't know something (none of us "know" how the trick is done), and they can't stand not knowing, and they'll believe the wildest things, because believing the illogical isn't as discomforting as "not knowing".

(This isn't another post slamming religion, is it?)
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03-23-2011 , 05:19 PM
i'm gonna go with magic.
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03-23-2011 , 05:28 PM
Stop over-thinking this trick, if you've used a nail gun you should know that you have to press down to load a nail into the chamber. I am not going to watch a second time, but I am pretty sure he even misfires a couple of times on the board by not pressing hard enough.
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03-23-2011 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
The gun is sucking nails out of the board??? Even rapid fire, Penn is able to precisely line up the gun with the already-sunk nail?
I'd imagine the nail holes are drilled out beforehand so the nails aren't stuck in the board very tightly, with just enough friction so that they'll stay up when the magnet has pulled them up. But this also means they'll come up without much resistance even if he's not absolutely precise in how he lines up the "gun".

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It's amazing how wild people's imaginations get when they don't know something (none of us "know" how the trick is done), and they can't stand not knowing, and they'll believe the wildest things, because believing the illogical isn't as discomforting as "not knowing".

(This isn't another post slamming religion, is it?)
You're right that we don't know for sure what the exact mechanism is. But if you watch the video carefully you can see the nails move up from within the board, they don't go down into it. The only reason people don't see this is because the familiar looking setup has conditioned them to expect the nails to travel into the board because "oh look, that's a nail gun and we all know nails come out of a nail gun, not into it". So to some extent people see what they expect to see, something magicians rely on all the time. Our perceptual expectations serve us well in 99.9% of situations but magicians will exploit this.
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03-23-2011 , 05:47 PM
Actually, the end of the nail gun goes over the nail so when he pulls it back up it just looks like it's coming out of the board (if that's what your brain expects to see obv.) Our perceptual expectations ect... 99.9% blah blah.
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03-23-2011 , 05:50 PM
The mechanism he's using is an air compressor and a nail gun.
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03-23-2011 , 05:57 PM
The magnet theory is definitely the most laughable.
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03-23-2011 , 06:15 PM
hes already killed Teller a few times with this trick, its all memorization and he messes up the sequence once in awhile. luckily Teller never speaks and the have that machine from The Prestige
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03-23-2011 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by STFUdonny
Stop over-thinking this trick, if you've used a nail gun you should know that you have to press down to load a nail into the chamber. I am not going to watch a second time, but I am pretty sure he even misfires a couple of times on the board by not pressing hard enough.
This ffs
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03-23-2011 , 07:28 PM
this thread is so great
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03-24-2011 , 12:57 AM
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I dunno if it's really up for debate since it was explained in the first minute of the clip when he shows you the big sheet of metal under the board.
Yeah and if a magician said it during a trick then it must be true.

LOL if you think the nails are traveling all the way down to the metal
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03-24-2011 , 01:43 AM
This thread is proof that Penn and Teller are ****ing geniuses... they are giving away the trick as you are watching them do it, actually telling you it's fake, and some are still confused because their presentation is so well done that you barely focus on Penn's admission. The ultimate meta-magicians. They don't even want to trick you, their whole act is proving that they could if they wanted to. The best part is that the first time i watched it cold, i was in total shock until I figured it out and laughed. Exactly the reaction they wanted.

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03-24-2011 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by STFUdonny
Stop over-thinking this trick, if you've used a nail gun you should know that you have to press down to load a nail into the chamber. I am not going to watch a second time, but I am pretty sure he even misfires a couple of times on the board by not pressing hard enough.
you would think enough people would know this for this trick to not be impressive at all. maybe that's the point.
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03-24-2011 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Well he's not going to do this trick with a 2x4 on top of a table draped in linen cloth and rose petals. The metal table is part of the theme of the trick.

So basically you're saying the nails are the length of the width of the wood + 2" out of the wood. Doubt it. He'll say whatever he has to say to get your mind into believing the illusion.

Plus, if there was enough force of the nail gun to push it through the wood and stop on the metal, you'd hear it. Also, you'd see the board bounce off the table, imo.

I'm done talking about it. It doesn't matter either way. I'm not impressed with the trick and debating it is only making me dumber.
I think the reason the nails are sticking out so far is so that they are clearly visible to people even in the back rows. The trick loses some of its effect if it's difficult to tell when theres a nail and when there isn't one, as would be the case if the nail went all the way in or if it only stuck out a little bit.
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03-24-2011 , 03:23 AM
I can't tell if the "nails are coming up out of the board" is a real theory or just blatant trolling .
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03-24-2011 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Parlay Slow
Yeah and if a magician said it during a trick then it must be true.

LOL if you think the nails are traveling all the way down to the metal
Well, you can go to 1:35, pause it and compare the length of the nails he's holding up to the length of the nails sticking out of the board + the width of the board and get back to me, kay?
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03-24-2011 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Deorum
Just watched it again. The gun only fires a nail when he pushes the muzzle down onto the surface causing the barrel to contract. If you notice when he fires it into his hand, he does not put any pressure on it and the muzzle does not contract. Instead, he holds the gun steady and moves his hand up to cup it over the barrel. Also, when he puts it on Teller's neck, he does so very carefully, not applying any pressure to it, and even grabs the magazine to ensure that he has a very steady grip on it such that it cannot compress on Teller's neck. So the trigger is not what is allowing the nail to fire, it is simply the mechanism that triggers the burst of compressed air. The barrel contraction is what loads the nail into the chamber. If you watch the last shot into the board before he put it up to Teller's neck, a nail does not come out. He does this to ensure that there is no nail in the chamber before he fires it into Teller's neck.
You nailed it.

and lol at magnets pulling out the nails, wtf people
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03-24-2011 , 10:03 AM
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Well, you can go to 1:35, pause it and compare the length of the nails he's holding up to the length of the nails sticking out of the board + the width of the board and get back to me, kay?
Because it would be INCONCEIVABLE that he might be using a different size of nails than the ones he's holding up. Magicians never try to mislead the audience so when he holds up the nail strip, that's reliable information about the nails in the board.
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03-24-2011 , 11:32 AM
I have a feeling lonely_but_rich has recognized his stupidity and is now trying to transition that into leveling us with further stupidity.
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03-24-2011 , 12:42 PM
There's no reason for them to go to all the trouble you guys are saying they went to. I think you're just trolling me though. Steve definitely is , Parlay, you might actually be stupid.
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03-24-2011 , 12:44 PM
If something malfunctions, the difference between the nail pricking your skin versus causing severe trauma seems like a good reason to go to all that trouble.
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