Cop shoots dog in crowded NYC street - Page 4 - Laughs or Links

lonely_but_rich · 08-19-2012, 11:52 AM

Because it says "both people survived, moderate injuries." in the OP of the car crash video.

Cliffs: Are you dumb?

**AphexDeuce** · 08-19-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopman20

Looks like the dog was trying to protect it's owner but actually just preventing anyone from getting close enough to give the man the care he needed. It also looked like the dog charged a woman and may have bit her in the leg, then charged one of the cops. I don't think the cop was out of line at all. The dog's intentions (just caring about it's owner) have nothing to do with what the cop had to do to get the best result possible out of the entire situation. And to all of those people ITT who just can't bear to watch... I agree, it's very sad, but Jesus Christ why is this kind of empathy so prevalent in this thread and absolutely almost non-existent in threads where you see two people drive off a cliff (seemingly to their death or at least extreme injury) or in some other way suffer a severe injury? I just think it's illogical.

Cliffs: It's too bad the dog was shot but I don't think it unreasonable (from what the video captured).

Why the **** do people seem to express so much empathy for a single aggressive dog ITT when other threads concerning innocent people obtaining serious or fatal injuries receive almost none?

Tazer=shooting. He could have just as easily pulled out his tazer.
As for the empathy with the dog itt & it's lack of presence in human vids I think we could easily see a dog dive off a cliff from a distance, not hear whimpering & be completely ok with it.
It's the severity of the dogs yelps & how much pain he's in that gives us so much empathy towards the dog. I think this vid in human terms would be =seeing someone get tortured/killed slowly, screaming in pain etc. We'd feel a similar amount of empathy.

Saying all that though I do agree that there's some sort of illogical disconnect hard wired into our brains when it comes to seeing humans killed & not caring vs dogs/cats getting killed. It's primitive or something, like seeing our defenceless young child getting hurt, it's hard wired like we go into insta defensive mode.

Tl;dr lol

CocteauTwin · 08-19-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AphexDeuce

Saying all that though I do agree that there's some sort of illogical disconnect hard wired into our brains when it comes to seeing humans killed & not caring vs dogs/cats getting killed. It's primitive or something, like seeing our defenceless young child getting hurt, it's hard wired like we go into insta defensive mode.

Tl;dr lol

Yeah, it's because cute cats, dogs and babies etc make us feel maternal/paternal. They have very similar physical features (big head & eyes, lil nose etc) and it brings out the nurturing instinct in us. As well as knowing they're totally defenseless if we decide to hurt them.

Mexibastardhawk · 08-19-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah Onion

^ did any of the above people have police training and a taser/pepper spray?

I bet none of them had a pistol.

What do you know about police training Monday morning quarterback? Do you think they spend as much time training on pepper spray/taser quickdraw as they do on pistol quick draw?

pbowenroe · 08-19-2012, 01:49 PM

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if he's such an accurate shot maybe he shoulda aimed for the leg?

yeah we all know everyone in NYC has jetpacks and ****

wtf

solsek · 08-19-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mexibastardhawk

I bet none of them had a pistol.

What do you know about police training Monday morning quarterback? Do you think they spend as much time training on pepper spray/taser quickdraw as they do on pistol quick draw?

Probably because pepper spray doesn't have as many consequences as, I don't know, a pistol. I wonder which weapon they are more likely to use on a given day. Herp derp ITT is strong.

I'll be honest , if that was a person charging the cop, I wouldn't have even posted in the thread...because the person knows better. A dog however, does not.

Mexibastardhawk · 08-19-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by solsek

Probably because pepper spray doesn't have as many consequences as, I don't know, a pistol. I wonder which weapon they are more likely to use on a given day. Herp derp ITT is strong.

So you don't know. Thanks for that but I'm looking for facts here, not useless speculation.

solsek · 08-19-2012, 01:58 PM

Do you? God you are beyond dumb it's so amazing. You think it requires millions of hours of training to use pepper spray? For gods sake, women can use that ****.

Pistol training is used for situations far more dangerous than this. Pepper spray training and taser training is IDEAL in a situation like this. Nice try monday morning quarterback.

EDIT: Oh, so you're looking for facts? Yeah...ok, cause a cop some 2p2 cop will likely just randomly post in here. The time spent training for one technique does not mean that they should resort to it.

Mexibastardhawk · 08-19-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by solsek

Do you? God you are beyond dumb it's so amazing.

You make good arguments. You don't seem like a dumbass at all.

solsek · 08-19-2012, 02:03 PM

Did you answer my question? Do you know how much time they spend training with pistols or non-lethal weapons?

If not, then stop acting like we need to disprove your posts and need to prove our posts. For all you know, they could spend just as much time training with lethal and non-lethal weapons.

**AphexDeuce** · 08-19-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mexibastardhawk

So you don't know. Thanks for that but I'm looking for facts here, not useless speculation.

You lack a basic understanding of probability & how to aggregate information properly.

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Originally Posted by solsek

Do you? God you are beyond dumb it's so amazing. You think it requires millions of hours of training to use pepper spray? For gods sake, women can use that ****.

Pistol training is used for situations far more dangerous than this. Pepper spray training and taser training is IDEAL in a situation like this. Nice try monday morning quarterback.

It's like blind dumbness.

Mor_Tilt4mePls · 08-19-2012, 02:06 PM

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Mexibastardhawk · 08-19-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by solsek

Did you answer my question? Do you know how much time they spend training with pistols or non-lethal weapons?

If not, then stop acting like we need to disprove your posts and need to prove our posts. For all you know, they could spend just as much time training with lethal and non-lethal weapons.

I can admit I don't know. That's why I'm not second guessing this professional for his actions without knowing the facts. That would be dumb.

Mexibastardhawk · 08-19-2012, 02:08 PM

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You lack a basic understanding of probability & how to aggregate information properly.

It's like blind dumbness.

Does it require gathering facts first?

wahoo3 · 08-19-2012, 02:11 PM

odds are probably >50% this dog is getting euthanized at a shelter anyway. or maybe it bolts 3 blocks down the street and out of site and mauls a kid, or the mace is ineffective or he misses or is too slow and he takes serious injury, or someone else does.

super easy to make this call when your decision is based on a serenade of dog whimpers and not a vicious pit bull charging at you from 10 feet away.