April 11th is the return to the 3D platformer on all consoles except Wii U.



I supported the wildly successful Kickstarter, did you?



This game will be the 3rd installment of the Banjo-Kazooie franchise, because this abomination doesn't count:



So who is ready for the best 3D platformer since Banjo-Kazooie (or maybe Psychonauts)

Really excited for this!

Ooooh didn't realize it was out so soon, definitely getting it

I was getting it for the Wii U, until I wasn't.

Already preordered. I'm a big fan of well done platformers and this looks outstanding.

You saw my jab at you in the OP correct?

Getting this for the PS4.

Absolutely love all the classic 3D platformers, was a huge fan of that genre and was kinda sad to see it fall by the wayside over the years.

Although they continued on strongly into the PS2 era there was something special about the N64 ones.

Given the talent that made this game, there's no way it's not going to be awesome if you're a fan of the 3D platforming genre.

Yea it changed to a more linear style; the large open worlds were rarely if ever seen after N64.

Here we go:

I'd assume anyone in this thread gets the reference but if for whatever reason you don't, the (in)famous DK Rap from Donkey Kong 64's intro.

Reviews are up today. Starting to read a few right now.

If you want to get super tilted just check out some of the negative reviews. Talk about dumb ****s who totally didn't get it.

Here are their most common complaints:

No in-game map
Not enough direction telling you where to go
Some collectibles very hard to find
Not enough checkpoints
Fall damage
You can't do everything in an area the first time, you have to revisit them later.
Some puzzles confusing
Boss encounters completely reset when you die during them
Not enough story
No voice acting

Basically the types of complaints you'd expect from a bunch of modern, casual ******s who want a totally linear, completely on-rails, interactive movie. Without fail almost every single thing negative said in any review sounds absolutely awesome to me (and to the people who actually wanted this type of game).

I weep for this generation of "gamers" who just want to follow the flashing arrow to the next cut scene.

All of those are not negatives to me obviously. The few negative things that worried me in the 3 reviews I read were:
-Poor camera
-Some unresponsive controls which caused a death/fail of challenge
-Challenges mainly being races against clock with tight window of success, which reminds me of this:

Either that or it's just a mediocre game.

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Yeah I think the hilarious complaint I read was "You had to collect a bunch of stuff and you didn't get a reward for it".

Like, collecting things is the point of these games. What do you want, a GEICO-themed skin for collecting everything?

It's certainly possible, can't say for sure since I personally haven't played it.

However I have no doubt that many masterpieces that came out during the 90's which got 10/10's then would be considered mediocre or even crappy by a large portion of today's gaming audience (even with modern graphics/controls).

Most of the negative reviewers are seemingly more critiquing the 3D collectathon platforming genre itself. Obviously if someone thinks the genre itself is boring and tedious, they're not going to like any game from it.

Regardless, all the positive and negative reviews seem to agree that this game is straight out of the late 90's 3D platforming genre and that was like the whole freaking point.

I guess one thing to bear in mind when it comes to reviews, is that they are reviewing the game for general audiences and in 2017 these are the types of complaints general audiences will have, so the reviews and the review scores might be accurate through the eyes of what your average gamer these days is expecting.

Had to use a friend's turbo controller to beat this. Was that the only way?

Nah, I did it manually. Even did it as recently as 3ish years ago.

The complaints about the camera do seem to be a reoccurring theme. It's possible the game does indeed have a crap camera but I find it more likely that it just has a typical old school 3D platforming camera which many people apparently find extremely offputting.

I frequently hear people talking about how games like Super Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie have these horrible, awful cameras that people just didn't notice at the time but now when you revisit them they almost break the game, blah blah. That these games haven't aged well, etc.

I find these complaints to be completely overblown by orders of magnitude. Within the past year did complete 100% playthroughs of SM64 and BK for the first time in probably 20 years and I found the cameras to be more than satisfactory, in fact they were downright good most of the time. Were they as fluid as today's generation of games? Obviously not, but having the camera cramp up awkwardly for a few seconds every 20 minutes or so gameplay is a complete non-issue and that was typically my experience revisiting those games of yore.

As someone big into retro games I find the whole "game hasn't aged well" argument to be ludicrous in general. To this day I have yet to find a game that was considered awesome in the era it came out only to replay it and discover it to be 'dated' or 'broken' or all the other common adjectives you hear.

I'm of the opinion the whole "you're just blinded nostalgia" argument only rings true when the thing you liked back in the day was considered crappy even in its time.

For example there are movies I liked as a kid that when I look back on now I'm like "jeez that actually sucked really bad" and I find almost without fail that it was considered really crappy at the time it came out, but being a dumb kid I had no taste and just liked it. When you're a kid and everything is new and interesting, you tend to like almost everything, even things that are terrible. That's where the nostalgia goggles can bite you.

In other words I tend to find that things that were actually great are mostly timeless, be it books, movies, tv shows, video games, whatever. Nostalgia bias is more when you were falsely laboring under the impression something was great only to revisit it later and discover your mistake.

Summary of a lot of reviews: http://www.gamesradar.com/yooka-layl...e-world-think/

There's apparently a day 1 patch that appears to focus heavily on camera and performance, so hopefully whatever issues reviewers were having will be significantly reduced.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...nd-performance

Looking really forward to this game. As a lover of these types of games, SM64's camera really is pretty ****ty.

I think it depends on how you define ****ty. ****ty compared to games in that genre that followed it? Ya, it definitely wasn't as good as later cameras would be. ****ty as in, it seriously impairs your ability to play or enjoy the game? No way.