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07-19-2017 , 12:50 PM
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You fill out a questionnaire and then it generates a rating.
Thanks. Just based on screenshots an M rating seems a but high
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07-19-2017 , 02:04 PM
I felt wrong saying that the game didn't have "bloody encounters at close range" but agree that M is kinda ridic. But I also don't care because I'm not really mass marketing or making any money or anything.
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07-23-2017 , 12:15 AM
Prune for iOS is on sale for $.99. I've been waiting for this for a while. Super excited to get to play it.
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07-26-2017 , 09:15 PM
This might be a CTH question but since this thread is full of online gamers, thought I'd see if anyone here has good ideas first - sometimes when playing online games (basically Rocket League) I experience a bit of lag that seems to be on my end and not the game's. I set up a script that pings Google every few seconds so I can identify when it's my connection, and when things are bad in-game, my connection to Google looks like this:



~20ms in the average case but occasionally it jumps to a massive level, which is obviously when I'm seeing slowdown in-game. Restarting usually helps but even on a fresh boot this will happen, like, once every 5 minutes or so, which is 99% tolerable but every now and then I get a lag spike at the worst possible moment (like, trying to make a save) and it causes a goal against.

How would I even go about trying to debug the issue here?
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07-26-2017 , 09:29 PM
It should not be doing that - neither the ~200ms replies or the complete timeouts.

Likely it's your connection, not your computer (unless by "reboot" you meant "reboot router"). Not impossible to be the PC though, just yesterday I helped a friend figure out his lan port had gone bad in exactly this manner, a trip to walmart for a USB wifi cured it for now! Run another ping in another window next to it hitting 192.168.1.1 or whatever your router / something else on the LAN is - that'll show you if it's your PC or the problems are further down the pipe.

repeated tracert could give you some info where the problems are happening. Probably it's just gonna be complain to ISP if problem is out of your control

Reboot your modem/router/switches if you haven't already.
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07-26-2017 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
It should not be doing that - neither the ~200ms replies or the complete timeouts.

Likely it's your connection, not your computer (unless by "reboot" you meant "reboot router"). Not impossible to be the PC though, just yesterday I helped a friend figure out his lan port had gone bad in exactly this manner, a trip to walmart for a USB wifi cured it for now! Run another ping in another window next to it hitting 192.168.1.1 or whatever your router / something else on the LAN is - that'll show you if it's your PC or the problems are further down the pipe.

repeated tracert could give you some info where the problems are happening. Probably it's just gonna be complain to ISP if problem is out of your control

Reboot your modem/router/switches if you haven't already.
great advice
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07-26-2017 , 09:57 PM
What is your setup? Wired to modem? Wired to router? Wifi?

What does a continuous ping to your default gateway do?

What type of ISP are you using, cable? Fiber? DSL?

If you do a continuous ping to google over ten minutes or so, what percent of dropped packets do you see?
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07-26-2017 , 11:10 PM
Thanks _dave_, seems likely to either be my wireless adapter on my end or my cable modem+router combo (from Comcast). I ran pings to google and my router side by side (this is after a reboot so it wasn't so egregious as in the previous screenshot):



I guess next step is trying a wire, which would be slightly awkward given that this is a laptop but might as well try to figure it out.
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07-26-2017 , 11:23 PM
never rent modem/routers from your ISP, buy and you're printing money a year later. Well.. $20/month or something.
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07-26-2017 , 11:28 PM
I was having something like that happen a while back when playing Overwatch. I didn't setup a tracking log like you did, but every couple minutes or so, I'd get a huge lag. Turned out that switching my PC from the 2.4 GHz wifi band to the 5 GHz band did the trick.

Obviously, if you don't have a dual-band adapter and router or you're already on 5 GHz, this wouldn't help.
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07-26-2017 , 11:40 PM
Yep, looks like it's not an upstream problem, which is nice. Process of elimination now.
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07-27-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
I was having something like that happen a while back when playing Overwatch. I didn't setup a tracking log like you did, but every couple minutes or so, I'd get a huge lag. Turned out that switching my PC from the 2.4 GHz wifi band to the 5 GHz band did the trick.

Obviously, if you don't have a dual-band adapter and router or you're already on 5 GHz, this wouldn't help.
WiFi on an fps? Savage
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07-27-2017 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
This might be a CTH question but since this thread is full of online gamers, thought I'd see if anyone here has good ideas first - sometimes when playing online games (basically Rocket League) I experience a bit of lag that seems to be on my end and not the game's. I set up a script that pings Google every few seconds so I can identify when it's my connection, and when things are bad in-game, my connection to Google looks like this:



~20ms in the average case but occasionally it jumps to a massive level, which is obviously when I'm seeing slowdown in-game. Restarting usually helps but even on a fresh boot this will happen, like, once every 5 minutes or so, which is 99% tolerable but every now and then I get a lag spike at the worst possible moment (like, trying to make a save) and it causes a goal against.

How would I even go about trying to debug the issue here?
I have exactly the same problem, and I found only a workaround by using a program called "WLAN Optimizer", nothing else worked for me.

Start the program in admin mode and then tick "disable autoconfig" and "background scan". It's the only one to not get the lag spikes.



The downside is that everytime you lose the connection for whatever reason, you have to switch autoconfig back on and back off again.

download link: http://www.martin-majowski.de/

Last edited by YouR_DooM; 07-27-2017 at 05:37 AM.
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07-27-2017 , 05:26 AM
for reference, here is what i get without it



and with it



notice how the ping is perfectly stable

FWIW I get ping spikes when pinging my router too, so it's a problem of my PC as far as I'm concerned. I understood it as win10 trying out all the wireless connections in the area every X seconds to show you what is available, and that causes a ping spike, which would explain why disabling autoconfig and scan helps.

Last edited by YouR_DooM; 07-27-2017 at 05:42 AM.
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07-27-2017 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Grue
never rent modem/routers from your ISP, buy and you're printing money a year later. Well.. $20/month or something.
I thought sometimes they required it? I haven't looked up what the deal is with my current provider but I thought in my prev apartment they required you to have this 3 in 1 gateway thingy.

Maybe you can special request a modem-only box or something you're saying?

I've always found the 2-in-1's to be good anyway.
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07-27-2017 , 12:12 PM
If you're on cable, just go to amazon or Best Buy and buy a modem, add it to your account, and you're good to go. Takes maybe four months to pay it off based on what you were paying as rental fees, which are usually insanely high.
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07-27-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YouR_DooM
I understood it as win10 trying out all the wireless connections in the area every X seconds to show you what is available, and that causes a ping spike, which would explain why disabling autoconfig and scan helps.
This sounds very possible.
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07-27-2017 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by YouR_DooM
I have exactly the same problem, and I found only a workaround by using a program called "WLAN Optimizer", nothing else worked for me.
Thanks, your issue sounds very similar to mine, I'll give that a try. Interesting theory about what's causing the slowdown, ****ing Windows.

Would I be correct in assuming most people gaming here are doing so on wired connections?
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07-27-2017 , 01:55 PM
Yup, any multiplayer game I have to do wired. If you are far from your router you can buy cheap extremely long Ethernet cables which I recommend. Increases download speed/video quality too. If you own your house you can also get a wire out in your computer space too.
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07-27-2017 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by YouR_DooM
I have exactly the same problem, and I found only a workaround by using a program called "WLAN Optimizer", nothing else worked for me.

Start the program in admin mode and then tick "disable autoconfig" and "background scan". It's the only one to not get the lag spikes.
This hasn't helped. I've tried a number of things the internet suggested...
- update wireless adapter driver
- disable Windows p2p updates
- disable Bluetooth

Nothing's stopped it.
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07-27-2017 , 10:42 PM
Have you verified problem goes away with an ethernet cable?
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07-27-2017 , 10:46 PM
Haven't tried yet - with that step I have the wrath of my girlfriend to consider if I start running wires across our living room. Will get to that another day.

Thanks for the help so far, will keep you guys updated.
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07-27-2017 , 11:18 PM
You're on a laptop, why would you need wires running all over the place?

Disable wifi, set your laptop next to your modem, run a three foot cable or less. Piece of
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07-28-2017 , 08:34 PM
I have an idea for a bad game that probably no one but me would like.

Mobile game, it's effectively the same thing as watching your PS4 apply updates. Or maybe training Eve skills. You're filling up progress bars for absolutely no point, just to see them complete. You can pick different length progresss bars and maybe there's slight cosmetic rewards and achievements, like a special rare progress bar pops up that gives you a gold border on your future progress bars, but it only shows up once a month and for a limited time. Or maybe doing ten fifty hour bars gives the ability to work on two bars at once.

Just sort of a do nothing game for wasting time.
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07-28-2017 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
I have an idea for a bad game that probably no one but me would like.

Mobile game, it's effectively the same thing as watching your PS4 apply updates. Or maybe training Eve skills. You're filling up progress bars for absolutely no point, just to see them complete. You can pick different length progresss bars and maybe there's slight cosmetic rewards and achievements, like a special rare progress bar pops up that gives you a gold border on your future progress bars, but it only shows up once a month and for a limited time. Or maybe doing ten fifty hour bars gives the ability to work on two bars at once.

Just sort of a do nothing game for wasting time.
http://progressquest.com/
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