Well if anyone has the game for XBOX 360 add me. Thanks.

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this hurts. any time i see "Origin" as EAs garbage steam ripoff im filled with nostalgia, which is quickly replaced by rage.

so by playing the game like i normally do and earning these coins i can play courses which i previously had to pay for for free, and people are complaining?

Because it will take about 20 hours of play for 1 course to be unlocked.. And most of these courses people had paid for in last years version..

based on the chart it looks like there are only 3 that you would have to dlc again

I dont buy their time to coin ratio either. ill take them at their word that that may be how quickly you earn them playing a regular round, but it doesnt include the bonuses for completing course masterys, country clubs, and various other things. plus we all know there will be ways to "cheat" and earn them faster than intended.

Yeah, that's what everyone wants in their sports game. A MMORPG type grind to unlock features. Nice.

Pro tip: you can now change your view at address by pushing rb. You can view your golfer from the front side which makes using the right amount if backswing muuuuuch easier, especially on putting.

It's kinda sad IMO but yeah, that's exactly what most people want now. I have not played any game in the last year that didn't involve RPG leveling in some way. Doesn't matter if its sports or FPS, the day of level playing fields is over and people are eating it up. I personally hate it but I know the majority would disagree with me.

Having never been a sports game aficionado, I have to say this is one of the ironies of this to me. There's so much rancor about having to pay for DLC again, which when you're buying tweaks on the same game year after year seems incongruous.

That part doesn't bother me too much, it's a new game. I wouldn't expect to get free DLC courses in every future TW game because I bought it last year.

Is the coin method the only way to play them, you can't pay a set price to unlock them forever?

Syncmaster,
I don't mind the leveling of the characters, that is pretty fun/cool. Its the grind for content I don't like. Imagine buying Madden, but you couldn't play with the Packers till you won 3 super bowls with the Browns.

Gump,
The problem with that is that they actually do make improvements to the game every year. The courses are the exact ****ing same.

Yeah, you can just buy them individually or in a pack and they're yours.

Otherwise you can rent them by the round with your coins. While you're renting you work to complete the Gold Mastery. Once you do so you own the course.

I finally played today for a few hours. I'll write a bit of a review tomorrow. Overall positive but I have some issues with the putting.

bought this. dont know what the whole country club thing is but i made a 2p2 one if anyone wants to join

first round report:

finished +7 at celtic manor mostly thanks to two doubles where i hit my iron into the water. swing seems exactly the same, it says i always underswing but didnt change much. hit every fairway like always. putting pretty easy, averaged 1.5/hole. just need to add power to my custom guy to get drives to break 250 and hit GIRs for birdies.

i got 570 coins for this extremely mediocre round, dont know how they are calculated but it seems like i would get way over their estimated 600 with a regular round.

switching the swing difficulty to hard makes a lot of difference on putting, will probably move that to about 55 and power to 70 and keep the rest of the attributes at the base for optimal playing.

and join the 2p2 club imo

**** you EA

Mini-Review


I've only had time to play a handful of rounds so far - competed the amateur tour, competed in the Masters (as an amateur) and I'm midway through the Nationwide Tour.

Have they completely eliminated the need to adjust for the speed of the green in TW13? Last year I posted my putting strategy as follows:

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First adjust for elevation: For every inch up/down in elevations, add/subtract a foot of distance from your putter.

Next determine your speed:

Slow Conditions = Take approximately 10% off the putt
Average Conditions = Take approximately 20% off the putt
Fast Conditions = Take approximately 30% off the putt
Tournament Conditions = Take approximately 40% off the putt

Now compensate for the break: You're on your own. No formula - just practice and feel.

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If you tried to play a fast green the same as slow one you would blast every putt past the cup. This year when I take a little off for the faster greens I'm always short of the cup. So now I only adjust for elevation and break and ignore the speed of the green - it doesn't seem to make a difference. Last year Augusta was like playing on glass, now it doesn't play any different than any other green.

It took me a little time to adjust to the new putting meter and I thought it was quite a bit more difficult than last year. Now that I've acclimated to it, and without having to take green speed in account, I think it may be easier.

The new swing system is fine. The only significant difference I've notice is you need to be more precise if you need to shave a small amount (like 10-20%) off the club. Last year, if I needed 85% of a club on approach, I would take a full back swing then pause at the top for 1, 2 or maybe 3 seconds (depending on how much distance I needed to shave) before starting my down swing. The longer you held to the club at the top the more distance it would shave. You can't do that anymore... if you hold the club at the top for more than a half second or so it resets your swing and you have to start over. Now you need to adjust the distance marker on the course and then hit the white line on the swing meter - it takes a little more precision.

Off the tee is a little silly. I don't think it's possible to miss a fairway, even when you flub your swing the ball still goes relatively straight. Teeing off for distance I take a full back swing into the red zone with a fast tempo the ball flies straight every time.

The biggest change in degree of difficulty is pitching. I haven't completely figured it out yet and I find I'm hitting long more often than I'd like.

Hitting from the rough is weird. Last year they told you how bad your lie was and the percentage of impact on your swing. In TW13 I feel like I don't need to compensate for the rough at all.

Conclusion:

• The new swing meter is good and requires more precision. Although it is nearly impossible to miss the fairway off the tea.
• Pitching is considerably more difficult.
• Hitting from bad lies has been neutered.
• Any degree of difficulty added the putting is only because the swing meter requires more precision. This has been negated by minimizing any need to adjust for green speed.

bad lies for me are somewhat tough since i always swing using my right hand on the left stick, but in the rough/sand you need to hold down on the right stick to get under the ball while swinging with the left one

Why don't you go into the options and change your swing stick to the right side? It's the first thing I do when I start playing the game. I'm much more comfortable swinging with my right thumb on the lower right analog stick. I can't do anything with my left hand on the left stick.

For sand, once I approach the ball I move the red cursor below the ball on the ball icon - how much below depends on how deep I'm buried. You don't need to hold anything down while you're swinging - set the red marker before you swing. Besides, if you have a good lie in the bunker you wouldn't want to pull the red cursor all the way down anyway - you only need swing a bit under the ball. Cursor all the way down is reserved for when your ball is neck deep in sand.

if you are on the hardest swing setting then it doesnt lock in place when you adjust to hit under the ball (or else my controller/game is Fd up)

I'm at work now but I'll check it out when I get home later tonight.

For Tour Pro and Tournament this is the case, genuinely makes non fairway shots tricky to hit solid

So far I think the game is a big improvement over last year, as has been said though, driving is way too easy

EDIT: For those complaining about the 'grinding', how about you actually play and enjoy the game then you get the courses as a bonus.

EDIT 2: can't find it....

its just named "2p2". right now im the only member

ive tried inviting people but it doesnt seem to be working

im at 12K coins already after three days of play. it looks like it takes 6 rounds on easy mode to unlock the courses for good, so at this rate I could be unlocking a dlc course every week (could be faster if the country club grows but i dont know what the bonus payouts are). on expert swing difficulty the game is quite fun

You on x-box? I'm on PS3, that could be why

yeah im on 360

2 for 1 special on waialei, got 6 rounds for 12K so hopefully will be able to get full mastery with those