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03-02-2014 , 12:44 AM
Yeah, his stream is good too.

Topically, I am streaming! www.twitch.tv/goofyballer

Lost a bet with WhiteGoose over USA-Canada game.
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03-02-2014 , 01:21 AM
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cha0sunity: think he's diamond or masters but does some interesting, creative builds, doesn't stream much though
thepresidentobama: recent follow, watched him once or twice and he seems pretty good, is GM
casualteagaming: good commentary, somewhat BM which is funny, was masters but recently got GM
NS_Grinkers: masters KR, exceptional commentary
Killerwalski: masters zerg, bad at the game, gets mad a lot, not even sure why I follow him tbh
omgnarwhalz: been so long since this guy streamed I don't even remember
Only one I recognise (omgnarwhalz rly?) is Grinkers, Japanese American guy right?
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03-02-2014 , 05:49 AM
Yeah, I think so. He lives in Japan but speaks perfect English so that makes sense.

All y'all who didn't watch missed the fungal of the year: http://www.twitch.tv/goofyballer/c/3812717

eta: other favorite games:
- never ever seen this before, a bad Terran goes rax at home, normal timing, AND TWO PROXY RAXES. Noticing w/ my drone scout that his wall had a whole (his first depot was offset) I was like "lol" and decided to 14/14 before expanding. So, completely by coincidence because he doesn't know how to place a depot, I had lings out easily, shut it down, and ran speedlings into his base to end the game
- someone who is likely bronze P goes one base 4gate, builds approx a billion zealots, attacks into like 7 spines, kills maybe 5 but finally dies

Last edited by goofyballer; 03-02-2014 at 06:13 AM.
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03-02-2014 , 07:27 AM
I didn't get to catch the stream but I did see that vid of dat fungal lmao. Soooo good haha
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03-02-2014 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
cha0sunity: think he's diamond or masters but does some interesting, creative builds, doesn't stream much though
thepresidentobama: recent follow, watched him once or twice and he seems pretty good, is GM
casualteagaming: good commentary, somewhat BM which is funny, was masters but recently got GM
NS_Grinkers: masters KR, exceptional commentary
Killerwalski: masters zerg, bad at the game, gets mad a lot, not even sure why I follow him tbh
omgnarwhalz: been so long since this guy streamed I don't even remember
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03-02-2014 , 02:41 PM
http://drop.sc/375572

who the hell taught this guy how to play starcraft
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03-02-2014 , 04:56 PM
http://www.root-gaming.com/news/view...ankings-1-75/1

wow, this is really interesting. cliffs are that 20 NA players

state, snute, sheth, socke, petraeus, sasquatch, vibe, minigun, kane, harsem, miniraser, babyknight, maddelisk, major, huk, suppy, desrow, scarlett, aiguz, and catz

all ranked their top casters. interested to see what you guys think about the results.

apollo and artosis at the top is standard. i was just talking the other day to goofy about how i thought rotterdam was really good and underrated.

i don't like tod's casting style, but he definitely knows a lot about the game. idra is one of my favorites- sort of a tod but less grating.

LOL day9- although i'm not sure if maybe i'll reconsider him as a caster. i'm sure there's a ton of bias in the fact that he likely he has personal relationships with a lot of these players.

bitter is too high. tasteless and totalbiscuit are too high. khaldor and wolf are way way way too low, in my opinion. the fact that gretorp is above wolf is just a joke.

this does sort of confirm the rumors i heard swirling around while i was in korea about how wolf and khaldor are *******s and not really popular.

thoughts?

FWIW if i had to rank these 19 i'd probably go

artosis
apollo
incontrol (hands down the funniest caster AINEC)
khaldor
rotterdam
idra
wolf
nathanias
khaleris
tasteless
axslav
bitter
husky
TB
tod
axeltoss
wheat
day9
gretorp
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03-02-2014 , 05:00 PM
Looks pretty good. Don't think Wolf is too low at all I hate him. Khaldor is though for me, he is ok. Agree Bitter too high.

Tasteless, well he is there for Artosis purposes to make the casting Archon. Artosis isn't as good without that back and forth banter.

Pretty good list. i would have Grubby up there too if he counted, maybe even in 3rd place behind the obvious two who most people will have.
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03-02-2014 , 05:10 PM
not sure how you can have wolf below a bunch of people even if you think he's inaccurate..unless you actively are annoyed by him for another reason

several people above him on that list have gold league knowledge of the game

husky, bitter, gretorp
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03-02-2014 , 05:12 PM
Gretorp is a high masters player dude, he knows his ****. In fact I think he has been GM even long after he stopped trying to be pro.

Meanwhile didn't Wolf lose to gold players on stream when he played? he obviously doesn't play the game anymore.
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03-02-2014 , 05:13 PM
Wolf and Khaldor are very solid IMO.
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03-02-2014 , 05:24 PM
well i guess there shouldn't be a difference between what you know and what you come across as knowing, but that guy comes across as knowing nothing
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03-02-2014 , 05:37 PM
Yeah whatever league he may be in, gretorp is one of the leaders in the casting world of "predicting something, having it immediately proven wrong" which is not a good look.
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03-02-2014 , 05:47 PM
Think I go(list put quickly together, mostly confident about the bottom and the absolute top. Everything in between is meh):

Apollo
Rotterdam
Artosis
Incontrol
Idra
Khaldor
Khaleris
Wolf
Bitter
Tod
-ZombieGrub
Tasteless
-Doa
Husky
Wheat
Axslav
Axeltoss
-KelleyMilkes


-MoleTrap

Gretorp



TotalBiscuit




Somewhere in the infinite abyss







Day9
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03-02-2014 , 05:56 PM
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well i guess there shouldn't be a difference between what you know and what you come across as knowing, but that guy comes across as knowing nothing
Who Wolf? I agree.
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03-02-2014 , 06:51 PM
The ranking is kinda meh because they're lumping both primary analysts and primary play-by-play guys. Pros would obviously be biased towards knowledgeable casters, so it's no surprise the top 5 is comprised of Artosis, Apollo, and Rotterdam (the 3 best analysts) as well as Tod and Idra (arguably the 2 best pros-turned-caster). That's fine by me, though, since I'm like-minded. I'd probably put Incontrol instead of Tod, but Tod is fine.

I think TB should be higher, too. He's very good IMO and can easily carry his weight as long as he has an analyst to co-cast with. This is why there should probably be separate rankings for "knowledge" and "personality". Most pros probably view weak game knowledge as a big negative, but it's not really a weakness. It's just not his job and he was one of the first to embrace that and not try to overstep what he knows.

Apparently everyone hates Wolf now lol. I didn't think he was terrible, but I haven't actually seen him cast in ages so maybe he's AIDS now. He used to be high masters in Korea back then though.
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03-02-2014 , 07:04 PM
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Let me answer that question with another question - DID YOU KNOW THERE'S A PATH OF EXILE EXPANSION COMING OUT THIS WEEK?
Fk yeah
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03-02-2014 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
She's been high masters for awhile, works very hard and puts in the hours to improve, and is now living with high level players that can help her do that even more. I think it will happen.
Eh, maybe... But I think her attitude is really ****. Whenever I watch her stream whether she's winning or losing she always has this sense of entitlement that makes me think of her as a big-titted Idra. That aside the main reason I think she won't make GM is because her mechanics are mediocre at best. I'm honestly surprised she's high masters. I see her take engagements that are completely un-winnable that I used to do in diamond and lower. Maybe some quality coaching will help her but with her attitude as bad as it is I think that she won't improve to the highest level like ever. Maybe we can get a prop going? =)
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03-02-2014 , 07:25 PM
She is never making GM imo. No way, no how.
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03-02-2014 , 07:26 PM
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Whenever I watch her stream whether she's winning or losing she always has this sense of entitlement
so she's basically 95% of NA pros?
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03-03-2014 , 01:46 PM
Desrow is such a self-promoting POS. I remember awhile back he had some "show" on his stream where he would look over gold league replays or something with his viewers, and he inexplicably listed it as an "event" on TL so that it shows up in the calendar thing in the upper right. Now I see on the Twitch main page that he is apparently coaching Smix, and sure enough:



jesus ****ing christ.
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03-03-2014 , 02:31 PM
Didn't Desrow win some hot dog eating contest?
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03-03-2014 , 02:50 PM
only one?
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03-03-2014 , 03:23 PM
People can self list events? ROFL
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03-03-2014 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Desrow is such a self-promoting POS. I remember awhile back he had some "show" on his stream where he would look over gold league replays or something with his viewers, and he inexplicably listed it as an "event" on TL so that it shows up in the calendar thing in the upper right. Now I see on the Twitch main page that he is apparently coaching Smix, and sure enough:



jesus ****ing christ.
u mad?
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