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Old 08-08-2010, 01:51 AM   #76
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Re: Starcraft 2 BBV thread

I'm gold and am even money against bronze players and losing pretty convincingly.
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Old 08-08-2010, 02:26 AM   #77
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[X]Beat

Some guy sent his all SCV's into my base straight away and managed to beat me =\

I need to find the replay
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Old 08-08-2010, 02:30 AM   #78
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Old 08-08-2010, 02:39 AM   #79
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Yep - I'm in bronze league - I've improved alot since that encounter >.<
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Old 08-08-2010, 02:49 AM   #80
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Sometimes. Silver's play wasn't good imo. The whole point of walling off at the top is forcing units to walk up the ramp and into a choke to get vision. There's no comparable advantage to walling off at the bottom.

Bad of Idra to not thumbs down Lost Temple though.
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But walling at the bottom prevents the opponent from getting up the ramp & therefore prevents them from getting vision, so T units can shoot down from the high ground while the opponent has to make it through the barracks first (or run an air unit over the cliff for vision, which the T player can attempt to target to take sight away again). I definitely liked Silver's play imo.
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I'd much rather be able to get a concave and hit some buildings from safety than have to walk all the way up into a choke before I can hit anything at all. I think it was just the newness of it that prevented Idra from abusing it.
JStunna is right but it also helps deny scouting of buildings/army. Helps alot more on maps with small base sizes and helps Terran the most because their buildings are so bulky/massive. Opponents sacrificial overlord has alot more ground to cover or not get that information.

Early on, your units outrange theirs, later you should hypothetically have control all the way up through your expansion choke so the buildings sticking out aren't a liability. Either way, it's really hard to "abuse" when those buildings still matter. Possibly in the mid game when mutas are out, but you can lift them if needed.

Still seems somewhat risky, but the logic is sound.

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Old 08-08-2010, 10:46 AM   #81
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Beat: got sick of losing last night, so instead of going zerg I went random
Variance: drew zerg as my race against toss on scrap station
Beat: lost to a proxy 2gate anyway

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Old 08-08-2010, 01:32 PM   #82
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Finally had somebody nerdrage quit on me, was so sweet.
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:01 PM   #83
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group play (2v2+) has to be the cheese capital of the world.

2 times today playing with Needle we got cannon rushed.

The 2nd time was ridiculous. The **** started outside the base and just kept creeping forward. I swear he probably had 50+ cannons by the time I gave up. Just kept creeping forward, little by little. There is nothing you can do about it if you don't get it early.

I'm probably going to get banned from this game because I was saying every bad thing I could think of and saying it in the chat. **** it though, I don't care. It's cheap and they can go **** themselves. ****ing pussy ass ****, have to play like a bunch of cowards just to win.

It will be a miracle if they don't report me. haha It was pretty bad.

I should have just surrendered when Needle backed out after they took over his base and I said I was pretty much done, but I held my ground for as long as I could.

*Patiently waiting for an email from Blizzard.*

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Old 08-08-2010, 04:08 PM   #84
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group play (2v2+) has to be the cheese capital of the world.

2 times today playing with Needle we got cannon rushed.

The 2nd time was ridiculous. The **** started outside the base and just kept creeping forward. I swear he probably had 50+ cannons by the time I gave up. Just kept creeping forward, little by little. There is nothing you can do about it if you don't get it early.

I'm probably going to get banned from this game because I was saying every bad thing I could think of and saying it in the chat. **** it though, I don't care. It's cheap and they can go **** themselves. ****ing pussy ass ****, have to play like a bunch of cowards just to win.

It will be a miracle if they don't report me. haha It was pretty bad.

I should have just surrendered when Needle backed out after they took over his base and I said I was pretty much done, but I held my ground for as long as I could.
can't you just toss up a few cannons that prevent him from cannoning further? and then just tech up
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:10 PM   #85
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can't you just toss up a few cannons that prevent him from cannoning further? and then just tech up
Never thought about that really. One of those things I just don't know about. I guess I could have. In fact, it's a good idea. But I didn't think about it. I was more or less concerned with trying build up an army and hold him off, which didn't work too well.

His partner, another Protoss, sucked pretty bad because I took out his Stalker army 2 times.

However, it still doesn't change the fact that people do stupid **** like that. I say play the GD game instead of being a coward.

EDIT: But have to say we got placed into Gold, going 3-2. In all honesty, I don't care if we lose because it's just a game. I just hate how we lose because it's usually to something stupid like that. In fact, both of our losses were because of that.

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Old 08-08-2010, 04:32 PM   #86
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[X]Beat

Some guy sent his all SCV's into my base straight away and managed to beat me =\

I need to find the replay
uhoh, hdstarcraft released a video of him doing that, be prepared for more of that same cheese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHT6c...os=iuOz9dv1x8E
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:40 PM   #87
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Brag: eating pho and watching Starcraft. It is a good feeling.
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Old 08-08-2010, 05:08 PM   #88
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can't you just toss up a few cannons that prevent him from cannoning further? and then just tech up
This, toss a few cannons up & you should be ahead since your opponent will have most likely spent more than you on his cannons. Then, just tech to Colossus or Carrier (since both have better range than cannons). Also, you could attempt a drop, since your opponent probably didn't enough cannons to protect the entire air distance to his base (although he very well may have put some in his base).

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uhoh, hdstarcraft released a video of him doing that, be prepared for more of that same cheese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHT6c...os=iuOz9dv1x8E
I wouldn't call scv rushing cheese, since you should generally have the advantage at all times (unless you cut workers for some reason).
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Old 08-08-2010, 05:23 PM   #89
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The large problem is that the rusher more easily surrounds than the defender. But I agree that it's probably pretty easy to defend against.
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Old 08-08-2010, 05:35 PM   #90
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Epic 35 minute TvZ that was even for most of the game. I went ling/roach/infestor/muta, he went MMM with tanks and some banshees/vikings thrown in for good measure. Losing this one hurt. I thought I played pretty well tbh, but I just couldn't pull through in the end. I really should have taken my high ground expo, I don't know why it never crossed my mind. Damn, I'm ****ing exhausted after this one.

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Old 08-09-2010, 01:44 AM   #91
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sometimes I feel like a scrub at this game.

played 4 games with stunna. Won game 1 somehow TvP. ZvP next game I supply lock myself when I have lots of larva popping for a defense of his 4 gate. PvP 3rd game I get into a fight when I'm up one base on him and I misclick and attack my own immortal and lose. ZvP game 4 I baneling bust and it kinda works but void rays raaaaape my 3 queens.

Pretty sure I'm gonna punch things. I play pretty bad.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:56 AM   #92
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#1 in my diamond division with 45 apm is a brag i think.

my division is probably brand new and it's just a matter of time before i start facing better diamond players and getting my ass-kicked, but still #1 diamond does feel like a bit of an accomplishment
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Old 08-09-2010, 02:17 AM   #93
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sometimes I feel like a scrub at this game.

played 4 games with stunna. Won game 1 somehow TvP. ZvP next game I supply lock myself when I have lots of larva popping for a defense of his 4 gate. PvP 3rd game I get into a fight when I'm up one base on him and I misclick and attack my own immortal and lose. ZvP game 4 I baneling bust and it kinda works but void rays raaaaape my 3 queens.

Pretty sure I'm gonna punch things. I play pretty bad.
I've done this with stalkers so many times it's not even funny
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:47 PM   #94
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:48 PM   #95
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:53 PM   #96
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How to tell someone doesn't understand zerg: they keep suggesting nydus canals. If I read one more post about how "nydus is sooo underutilized" by some silver player, Imma get freaky on some ****.

Nydus canal is like noob gold or something, I swear.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #97
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sometimes I feel like a scrub at this game.

played 4 games with stunna. Won game 1 somehow TvP. ZvP next game I supply lock myself when I have lots of larva popping for a defense of his 4 gate. PvP 3rd game I get into a fight when I'm up one base on him and I misclick and attack my own immortal and lose. ZvP game 4 I baneling bust and it kinda works but void rays raaaaape my 3 queens.

Pretty sure I'm gonna punch things. I play pretty bad.
I thought you played pretty well in all the games. If you want more practice vT hit me up on bnet.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:05 PM   #98
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How to tell someone doesn't understand zerg: they keep suggesting nydus canals. If I read one more post about how "nydus is sooo underutilized" by some silver player, Imma get freaky on some ****.

Nydus canal is like noob gold or something, I swear.
I think nydus canals are underutilized, but I also admit that I don't understand zerg.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:06 PM   #99
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Also I just beat some player named "TheLittleOne", but it was just some silver imitator.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:11 PM   #100
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