i got 100% and came in around 12 hours which included some messing around. i guessed 8 for just beating the game and not doing the challenges and stuff although i could be a little off.

Totally random but I was wondering:

Was Undead Nightmare a stand-alone download? I sold my RDR but wouldn't mind playing Undead again.

Nah you need a RDR disc for the undead nightmare dlc.. It comes as a stand alone disc though.

I just bought the Undead Nightmare disc. Hopefully there are still people actively playing Liar's Dice online (the disc also includes a couple of the other DLC packs).

Surprised I didn't post in here after I finished the main game earlier this year. Incredible...it's probably my #2 ever. The cut-scenes I thought were pretty bad, but the game works in spite of that. It again falls into the GTA4 trap of taking itself too seriously. Not that I necessarily have a problem with a more "serious" story for one of these games - it's just the particular way in which Rockstar is clearly trying to be Hollywood and is making really lame attempts at shoehorning "meaning" and "emotion" into their non-interactive scenes. Also in the case of both games, the protagonists are brutal killers while the cutscenes lamely attempt to portray them as ultimately nice guys trying to reform. RDR would I think have been better if Marston was more like The Man With No Name (including Eastwood in Unforgiven). Quieter, demonically skilled and brutal when necessary, but there can still be a family and a somewhat soft side.

Anyway, the game is still my #2 even considering all that. GTA4 on the other hand doesn't really register on my list because I found that version of Liberty City to be a thoroughly uninteresting place.

"This game is my #2 favorite ever

*Insert 20 reasons I hate this game*

Ya, so #2 ever!"

I only played the single player (original campaign not DLC), and the AI was terrible but I didn't know you could play Liar's Dice versus people online. It would be really cool if you could gamble for Microsoft Points but obviously that's not allowed. Liar's Dice against players (human or AI) who actually understand how to play could be fun though.

I played liar's dice a few times when it was first released. I found it fun with friends but most of the randoms were completely retarded and would quit mid game or after one round.

It wasn't a review, I wrote about one small aspect of the game that I disliked.

I played one game of Liar's Dice tonight...the open world map for multiplayer is a huge confusing hassle, they really should have made normal lobbies for people who want to do specific things. I started Liar's Dice though and we actually got 5 of us. Two of them left partway through. I did not win.

any1 still playin this game?

This is one of the few games I'm "sad" about being finished with and want to return to. It would be amazing if they did a "Liberty City Stories" type thing with it for Vita. Just re-use all the assets and put a new 30 hour storyline there. Vice City was another game that I missed in the same way, and that itch was eventually scratched with Vice City Stories.

Do you have the halloween DLC?

You mean Undead Nightmare?

Yeah I agree but don't put it on Vita just release a part 2 or something, the game play and story were awesome.

Yea I would prefer they do it on the regular systems but it seems like that ship has sailed for this generation whereas there is hope for Vita, just based on Rockstar's history with the PSP GTA games (which were ported to PS2 eventually). There will obviously be another game somewhere down the line but I wouldn't mind seeing that same map again with new content.

Yes I played Undead Nightmare.

This game was pretty solid although a little too repetitive for my liking.