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05-07-2011 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianFX
I just sold 1036 wood for over 4000$. Now to buy some diamond picks, shovels, axes...

Yeah, a lot of people are PvPing and stealing everybody's stuff. I watch my back every where I go and don't go out with too much on me.

It would be nice if we got the 2+2 server up and were able to get a good sized community in there, me, rollin, Belok, megloo, spraggy, rofl (who is he?), Dids, MinusEV, I know I'm forgetting some people. And then have some of these cooler plug-ins......and no griefing OR PvP!

Just create an economy and develop the environment over time.

EDIT: Bought something like 13 shovels, 20 pickaxes, 6 axes, 6 swords, all diamond armor. A bunch of people are just stockpiling diamonds. I think if you log out you start over with your money, but I'm not sure. I'm testing something right now, trying to create a tree farm, but limiting the height of the trees so you don't have to deal with having the wood going higher than you can reach from the ground.
rofl is belok

*edit* also if you want a tree farm, use the bone from my mob spawner, make bonemeal, mass grow/chop trees

*2nd edit* if you can get that much diamond that easily, a griefer who just joined can too (so 1min old griefers can get a diamond sword and **** you up). server rules are too flawed to continue.

Last edited by Belok; 05-07-2011 at 01:10 AM.
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05-07-2011 , 01:13 AM
I was looking at the minecraft wiki and saw the bone meal. I tried it out, but I'm still testing.

The one guy is trying to get people to work for him right now, 64 wood for 5 diamonds. haha Yeah it's out of control, but as far as the economy, I think you'd have to know about the shop to be able to exploit it. If you're new to the server you might not know about it.

EDIT: How come your mob spawner is kind of slow? I thought you'd be getting a steady stream of items coming down....???

Last edited by ItalianFX; 05-07-2011 at 01:19 AM.
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05-07-2011 , 01:14 AM
Just got the confirmation through. Been working through the setup for an hour or so. Much to consider but you can indeed join now and start snooping around if you so wish.

sc34.servercraft.co:7581

Looking at mods for buying/selling etc, keeping chests private, locking doors etc..

Loads of fun plugins we can use, all of which can be found here.
Plugins/Addons.

If anyone spots anything good let me know and I will sort it out.

Fwiw, I have already installed this...
Locking Chests and Doors.
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05-07-2011 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
Just got the confirmation through. Been working through the setup for an hour or so. Much to consider but you can indeed join now and start snooping around if you so wish.

sc34.servercraft.co:7581

Looking at mods for buying/selling etc, keeping chests private, locking doors etc..

Loads of fun plugins we can use, all of which can be found here.
Plugins/Addons.

If anyone spots anything good let me know and I will sort it out.
TIPS:
whatever buy/sell mod you use, make it player driven.
the server we were on basically screwed the economy completely.

for chests, a public/private toggle is enough to solve 95% of issues

day/night vote, while convenient, makes survival trivial

pvp is a pain in the ass, but can be fun, so should be allowed in restricted areas.
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05-07-2011 , 01:25 AM
Having the economy player driven is a must. I will look into it all tomorrow. Gotta get some sleep soon though. Private chests are easy and already sorted. Day/night will stay natural unless good reason. Not too worried about pvp because we should all know each other etc... If anyone is a dick I have a jail feature.
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05-07-2011 , 01:36 AM
I'd like to have a way to make day during the night like the server we are on now. It's annoying to sit through the night not being able to do anything outdoors.
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05-07-2011 , 01:39 AM
At the moment I can make it day whenever I need to, do we think this is best? Or to leave a natural day night cycle? Or to put voting in place?
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05-07-2011 , 03:08 AM
I look at sunlight as a resource just like diamond etc.

Can you get a mod with superbright torches - glowdust stuff blocks? to make super bright lampposts for a town area or building sites??


The day night cycle lets me split my time between building stuff and mining/crafting/organising chests/interior decorating/taking a short break from the game while making a cup of tea etc.
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05-07-2011 , 03:11 AM
You could use pumpkins and make them superbright?? Or just find a way to glow-dust spawn without the nether

Something like this might be good as long as it wasn't permanent/super easy to get without some sacrifice : http://goo.gl/mH9DE
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05-07-2011 , 03:43 AM
I think right now the plan is sort of to just see who is going to get involved, and then start making changes. Plus, Spraggy needs some time to play with the commands and get familiar with what he can do.

Had 2 other people in there tonight. I hope to see others in there soon. We won't have those separate gates so we can just concentrate on an area without fear of having our stuff destroyed.

I'd suggest having the IP removed from his post, though, so nobody else can get it. If you want in then you'd have to PM him or someone else.

Playing on multiplayer definitely makes Minecraft fun again. If it was just SP, I probably wouldn't ever turn the game on.
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05-07-2011 , 07:00 AM
Yeah do hide the ip address. On another private server I'm on someone posted the ip in the minecraft thread on the forums with around 50 people on. After a few days random people started logging onto the server finding it through that post via googling for a minecraft server.

The guy in charge of the server had to implement a whitelist which has prevented any form of griefing since.
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05-07-2011 , 07:41 AM
I can't get on to the server - it just times out.

If implementing a whitelist isn't a big task, then I think that would be the preferred solution - it's going to be tough to keep the server safe just by trying to hide the ip from everyone we don't want on.
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05-07-2011 , 08:14 AM
Just got on - it looks great. Very nice starting area.
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05-07-2011 , 01:46 PM
Detailed post about economy incoming.
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05-07-2011 , 02:02 PM
Ha killed a guy and got 26 diamonds from him, and ran and locked'em up in my chest But that servers sucks, I started griefing to get back at people.. You can't even build as you just get killed, if i wanted to kill, I'd play Blops..
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05-07-2011 , 03:25 PM
I didn't even know you could do any of that in the game.. lolz..
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05-07-2011 , 05:15 PM
Flickr makes it too much of a pain to post these individually- but some more pictures, (some pretty dark) of my complex.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdids/s...th/5697419666/
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05-07-2011 , 09:51 PM
Anyone feel like explaining mods to me and how they will help or speed up my process of building crap...??
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05-07-2011 , 10:31 PM
Sprag - econ tips

Lower obsidian value. It is pretty easily farmed (lava bucket + water bucket + 15seconds to mine)

1 wood (.10) = 4 planks = 1 workbench (.40) Not sure if intended.

Feathers @ 3$ will be crazy OP if we ever turn mobs on and I make a grinder. Had about 400 feathers after 2 days in the other server.



(if i understand correctly, you cant buy these items for the same price, right? Only selling?)

Once some time has passed and ppl arent farming any specific overpriced item, it would be a good idea to have a small strict list of buyable items. The previous server ****ed everything up by allowing you to buy diamonds at a crazy cheap rate.

Allowing basic raw materials to be bought would not break the game IMO. Planks, (cooked)Stone, Glass, and maybe White wool would be reasonable. After someone has established their base and has a chest full of diamonds, it feels a bit goofy to go dig sand for 1 hour and cook it into glass for another 30min.

*edit* the reason for allowing a few select items to be bought from the server is to give the currency an inherit value, and to remove a portion of it from the economy. If nothing can be bought from the server, all currency that is accumulated will be around forever (because you can only keep it or give it to another player).

Diamonds and Iron should never be available as a server purchase IMO.
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05-07-2011 , 11:03 PM
white wool, redbrick, bones and bone meal need to be on the list of things we can buy when it starts
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05-07-2011 , 11:06 PM
Good points belok. Will take it all on board and get something very reasonable tomorrow. Definitely gonna look into setting up small shops with selected items once the economy settles.

FWIW 1log-4wood-1workbench

Think I got that right?
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05-07-2011 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
Good points belok. Will take it all on board and get something very reasonable tomorrow. Definitely gonna look into setting up small shops with selected items once the economy settles.

FWIW 1log-4wood-1workbench

Think I got that right?


Could you do a once-a-day bonus of maybe 5 bones, just for a few days to get bones into the economy.
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05-08-2011 , 12:14 AM
A shop will open eventually selling things that cannot be obtained in game.
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05-08-2011 , 12:30 AM
Ight i started to clear dirt from a mtn that ill turn into a building.. so if you come up onto the mtn plaease dont start mining the stone..
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05-08-2011 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rurollin
Ight i started to clear dirt from a mtn that ill turn into a building.. so if you come up onto the mtn plaease dont start mining the stone..
Put signs up and I'm sure no one will touch your spot.
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