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05-26-2017 , 03:22 PM
That's always how it's been with the special invites. Day9 got to go 1-8 at the PT a couple years ago.
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05-26-2017 , 03:48 PM
Amaz is a much better player than Day9. He's probably somewhere a little above the average player at the pro tour in limited but likely worse at constructed (might depend how much help he gets/whether he can test with a team).
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05-26-2017 , 04:22 PM
Yes that's obviously true, amaz will also have access to a much better testing group.
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05-26-2017 , 05:36 PM
he has a 1950 limited rating on mtgo. people have said thats top 1%.

the talk about him "decreasing the player quality" is lol. there is no way he is worse than your typical ptq grinder who binked one to qualify.

could probably test with kibler and his crew (hope kibler goes)

just a few more months of turn 4 ulamogs! in fairness I forgot that it was initially planned for BFZ/OGW to have rotated out when aetherworks marvel was developed.
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05-26-2017 , 05:43 PM
People mad at Amaz making it are just silly. One, he's actually good. He lead the MM trophy board iirc. Two, he streams magic sometimes and when he does he has more viewers than every single other one combined. Currently he's streaming to 2600 people, kenji is second at 1k, cheon has 800, and then it drops to 80. It's insane. Third, getting more eyes is great. Amaz reaches a ****load more people than anyone else could. And hey, growth of the game is a good thing for everyone.

Hope he does well. He's apparently testing with GerryT
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06-30-2017 , 03:24 PM
This new set looks pretty underpowered. Here's pretty much the entire list of cards clearly good enough for standard:

New Planar Cleansing
Supreme Will
Abrade
Hour of Devestation
Nimble Obstructionist

The green grab two lands spell is a maybe. I kinda like the one sided humility as a one of in some sideboards. Torment of Hellfire might be good in some Cryptolith Rite big mana deck. Nicol Bolas has a chance but he's so much worse than blue gearhulk so I doubt he gets played much

Can they just ban the entire Kaladesh block?
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07-02-2017 , 07:10 AM
That would explain why average price for a pack is $0.60.

Joke aside, anyone have some info on magic digital next? I was thinking on coming back to mtg today and just learned of that. Not much info on google till hascon. Made me think twice on investing money on modo. So if anyone have more info I'd be quite nice.
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07-02-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bgordon
This new set looks pretty underpowered. Here's pretty much the entire list of cards clearly good enough for standard:

New Planar Cleansing
Supreme Will
Abrade
Hour of Devestation
Nimble Obstructionist

The green grab two lands spell is a maybe. I kinda like the one sided humility as a one of in some sideboards. Torment of Hellfire might be good in some Cryptolith Rite big mana deck. Nicol Bolas has a chance but he's so much worse than blue gearhulk so I doubt he gets played much

Can they just ban the entire Kaladesh block?
I think the colored desert cycle is great. All but blue look standard playables. I think the blue and black "God's last..." are decent. Abandoned Sarcophagus/Hollow One should make completely new deck viable/improve new horizons. PW's Defeat cycle is def playable.

Also liking these and expect most to see some standard play:

Adorned Pouncer
Champion of Wits
Earthshaker Khenra
Scavenger Grounds (It does make gearhulk quite awkward, especially since you often need the gearhulk to find the next draw spell. So once you take the first batch, there won't be good targets in a long time.)
Ramunap Excavator
Grind // Dust
Hostile Desert
Strategic Planning
Vizier of the Anointed
Banewhip Punisher
Doomfall
Razaketh's Rite
Claim // Fame (modern)
Consign // Oblivion
Farm // Market
Appeal // Authority (this is actually pretty sweet effect, both sides can guarantee alpha strike on their own)
Countervailing Winds
Striped Riverwinder
Unsummon
Beneath the Sands
Resilient Khenra
Traveler's Amulet (Maybe critical mass of 1-cost cards for improvise)
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07-02-2017 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LonelyBox
That would explain why average price for a pack is $0.60.

Joke aside, anyone have some info on magic digital next? I was thinking on coming back to mtg today and just learned of that. Not much info on google till hascon. Made me think twice on investing money on modo. So if anyone have more info I'd be quite nice.
It is simply an unbrella term for all digital mtg products, not an actual product afaik.
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07-02-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LonelyBox
That would explain why average price for a pack is $0.60.

Joke aside, anyone have some info on magic digital next? I was thinking on coming back to mtg today and just learned of that. Not much info on google till hascon. Made me think twice on investing money on modo. So if anyone have more info I'd be quite nice.
Nobody knows anything about what they're doing.

Don't invest into MODO except to buy cards that you plan on playing with. You should expect the price of everything to go down.
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07-02-2017 , 02:08 PM
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It is simply an unbrella term for all digital mtg products, not an actual product afaik.
that was not my understanding, I thought it would be a completely new online client

no one knows but they have already ended support for the magic duels thing which was a watered down online client for beginners so presumably part of whatever they are planning will refill that space.
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07-06-2017 , 11:16 AM
Yeah I liquidated a lot of my collection recently just in case something comes out to replace mtgo. If it's ever even announced, values of everything will plummet.

Do any of the new cards have a place in older formats, even if they won't see play in standard? I don't remember anything specific off the top of my head, but I thought some spoilers felt like they'd potentially have utility in more powerful environments.
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07-06-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Yeah I liquidated a lot of my collection recently just in case something comes out to replace mtgo. If it's ever even announced, values of everything will plummet.

Do any of the new cards have a place in older formats, even if they won't see play in standard? I don't remember anything specific off the top of my head, but I thought some spoilers felt like they'd potentially have utility in more powerful environments.
The Black/Red split card is likely to see play in modern. The desert that exiles all graveyards might see play in Eldrazi decks. Desert that becomes 3/4 might see play in fetch land formats, if you can repeatedly activate it, it is one of the best man lands ever printed.
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07-06-2017 , 11:41 AM
Hollow One + Bazaar of Baghdad is probably busted enough for Vintage

Claim to Fame is good enough for Death's Shadow.

I'm convinced Nimble Obstructionist is a good Modern card although it doesn't seem like that's a widely held opinion.

That's about it.
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07-06-2017 , 12:12 PM
Is Claim to Fame really that much better than Unearth? I keep hearing all this hype about it, almost always talking about the "Claim" half, but unearth is just a better version of that effect and sees no play. Is the flexibility of the aftermath (vs the cycling of unearth) really enough to push it from unplayable to staple?
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07-06-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Is Claim to Fame really that much better than Unearth? I keep hearing all this hype about it, almost always talking about the "Claim" half, but unearth is just a better version of that effect and sees no play. Is the flexibility of the aftermath (vs the cycling of unearth) really enough to push it from unplayable to staple?
Unearth isn't modern legal. And yes, Claim is better. The Fame is very real upside.
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07-06-2017 , 01:11 PM
Unearth is better than claim, but yes it isn't modern legal. The +1 cmc and cycling is much more important than the haste and pump option
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07-06-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Unearth is better than claim, but yes it isn't modern legal. The +1 cmc and cycling is much more important than the haste and pump option
Thing is, everything relevant costs 1 or 2 anyways. Modern have ton of things that put Fame in graveyard for free. The only time you really want to cycle unearth in modern is vs grave hate as the card does so much. It is, for example, really good with Jace, Vryn's Prodigy.
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07-06-2017 , 02:15 PM
Ahh, it makes a lot more sense now - I saw someone make the comparison but it was probably when talking about whether it's legacy playable. The fact that thought scour (among other things) can put it in the graveyard as well is also something I probably underrated.
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07-06-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Willd
Ahh, it makes a lot more sense now - I saw someone make the comparison but it was probably when talking about whether it's legacy playable. The fact that thought scour (among other things) can put it in the graveyard as well is also something I probably underrated.
Yeah, in addition it is pretty sweet both vs and with Liliana.
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07-06-2017 , 02:59 PM
mtgo accidentally releases next set cards in treasure chests, has no way to undo it or keep them out of constructed events

http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/1...astation-cards

lol
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07-11-2017 , 06:23 PM
trying to make eldrazi work until rotation, new deserts really help out the mana. think red is best with great removal into chandra/glorybringer
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07-11-2017 , 06:48 PM
9 out of 10 decks built by the best,
Sucks, so keep the good one and discard the rest
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07-11-2017 , 09:03 PM
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trying to make eldrazi work until rotation, new deserts really help out the mana. think red is best with great removal into chandra/glorybringer
Red and black have traditionally been the best Eldrazi shells. Don't think you can run 2 colors anymore unfortunately. Here is the previous shell that has had success in case it helps you (it's been dead since Oath, but I imagine the shell is the same)

http://www.starcitygames.com/events/...kent_kett.html

A couple of GP grinders in my area went with a mono-black eldrazi list for the past couple of first day of the format opens that performed well featuring Mindbender and Kalitas. I think both of those cards are great right now.
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07-11-2017 , 09:22 PM
I've been playing something similar to this

https://www.channelfireball.com/arti...razi-standard/

using the new land upgrades, abrade in for incendiary flow, more sweltering suns, and 2 flamecallers since I only had tix for 2 new chandras. plus a real sideboard

black was my second thought just to stuff all the early removal in plus can go more aggressive with scrapheap into those good cards like kalitas
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