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07-12-2013 , 10:11 AM
Ooh Mulch seems really good with Bloodghast, though Grisly Salvage is probably nearly as good.
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07-12-2013 , 02:33 PM
Salvage is probably enough better with Vengevine that its better than Mulch for the deck, right?
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07-12-2013 , 07:38 PM
Does any one got tickets for sale ?
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07-12-2013 , 07:39 PM
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Does any one got tickets for sale ?
I want cards or complete sets as well paying stars/neteller
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07-12-2013 , 10:22 PM
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Salvage is probably enough better with Vengevine that its better than Mulch for the deck, right?
Yes, probably.

Anybody else think Tezzeret may be a really good Modern deck? Granted, there is the occasional Shatterstorm in sideboards, but there are a lot of great artifacts in the format. Chalice of the Void, Relic of Progenitus, Grafdigger's Cage, Torpor Orb, Nihil Spellbomb, Engineered Explosives, Vedalken Shackles, Spellskite... these cards are all excellent right now. Then you get signet/talisman, Mox Opal, throw in some Thirsts and some Batterskulls, which is also awesome (I am a huge fan of Batterskull in Modern)... seems sweet. Any other ides for artifacts?
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07-13-2013 , 06:24 AM
I wouldnt call it a strictly worse tron, but it seems less good...

the appeal being a trinket mage toolbox but that's super slow. and pod seems like a rough matchup
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07-13-2013 , 08:38 AM
Hrm perhaps you are correct. I'm currently starting to play RG Tron because I think it's fairly well positioned right now, both online with all the mono U Tron and live with all the Pod, plus the combo decks that were the worst matchup are almost non existant (Storm and Eggs). Scapeshift moving away from Cryptic in favor of Titan is good for Tron too because, while it makes Slaughter Games a little worse, it makes Leyline of Sanctity much better (which also helps against the other bad matchup: burn).

As for Pod, a lot of the artifacts are great against Pod. Torpor Orb, Relic of Progenitus, Grafdigger's Cage and Nihil Spellbomb are all excellent against Pod, especially Melira Pod, which is by far the more popular right now.

You are probably correct. It is probably wishful thinking. But I do love to wish. I may try it out anyway.
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07-14-2013 , 08:28 AM
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As for Pod, a lot of the artifacts are great against Pod. Torpor Orb, Relic of Progenitus, Grafdigger's Cage and Nihil Spellbomb are all excellent against Pod, especially Melira Pod, which is by far the more popular right now.
these cards are meh. melira pod is a really good creature deck w townships, and the combo is secondary. ppl overadjust vs the combo and it gets sideboarded out anyway in a lot of matchup. u turn ur deck into creature with pod for value.
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07-15-2013 , 10:02 AM
I play Melira Pod and I can confirm that all of these cards are very good against it. The "Melira is a creature deck with a combo as backup" claim that you hear all the time I think is largely misunderstood. It is true that a lot of your games are won via attacking. The reason for this, though, is that while the combo is easy to assemble, it is just as easy to disrupt. It is because of this that the combo remains secondary, and therein lies the true strength of the deck.

The combo is not proactive, as nearly every other combo is. Instead, the combo is reactive. The deck limits what its opponents can do with the threat of comboing (at instant speed even) if the opponent ever taps out or uses too much of its removal. It forces its opponent to play cautiously while the Pod player has no fear of playing out his or her threats until the opponent is simply overwhelmed and falls to damage.

Now the point of this is that when you disable the potential to combo (or severely hinder it) the deck becomes much worse. It isn't like Skull Crack where Thragtusk is now just a 2 for 1 without the tempo swing. Most of the cards in Melira Pod are very bad when you have things like the artifacts above to interact with them. Cage just shuts down Birthing Pod and Chord of Calling. Cards like Eternal Witness and Reveillark are terrible with a Relic of Progenitus in play. And cards like Melira, Cartel Aristocrat, and Viscera Seer are just awful on their own.

These cards won't beat the deck on their own. You need to be able to either apply pressure yourself while being backed up by these cards or you need to be able to control the board with the aid of them. The cards I mentioned above are certainly not the only cards to play in a Tezzeret deck. They, of course, need to be backed up by things like Damnation or Ensnaring Bridge. But having the ability to run these cards does significantly hurt the deck. Having the ability to run them mainboard is outstanding.
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07-16-2013 , 09:53 PM
I'm considering selling off my modo collection, which is pretty big (have been playing for many years).

Do those people/sites who offer to buy entire collections offer decent money for them, or will you lose like a billion %? Not sure how to go about it really, not like I'm manually selling 80k+ cards any time soon anyway.
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07-17-2013 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Fabian
I'm considering selling off my modo collection, which is pretty big (have been playing for many years).

Do those people/sites who offer to buy entire collections offer decent money for them, or will you lose like a billion %? Not sure how to go about it really, not like I'm manually selling 80k+ cards any time soon anyway.
Couldn't you just go to a bot and sell off your stuff that way, then sell the tix? I mean, that's not going to get you much for 79K+ cards in your 80K card collection, but those cards are basically going to have zero value if you try to sell the whole collection at once, anyway.
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07-17-2013 , 02:34 AM
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Yes, probably.

Anybody else think Tezzeret may be a really good Modern deck? Granted, there is the occasional Shatterstorm in sideboards, but there are a lot of great artifacts in the format. Chalice of the Void, Relic of Progenitus, Grafdigger's Cage, Torpor Orb, Nihil Spellbomb, Engineered Explosives, Vedalken Shackles, Spellskite... these cards are all excellent right now. Then you get signet/talisman, Mox Opal, throw in some Thirsts and some Batterskulls, which is also awesome (I am a huge fan of Batterskull in Modern)... seems sweet. Any other ides for artifacts?
I have no experience with modern but it's probably worth noting that you don't really need to stuff your deck with a ton of artifacts to make Tezz "good" anyway.

Definitely keep the thread posted about any experimenting you do. I don't play a ton of modern but I just might if it was possible to make a competitive Tezzeret deck, I loved him in standard. The ability to impulse every turn is pretty strong and the ability to blow out slow/mana screwed opponents by making 5/5s is nothing to sneeze at.
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07-17-2013 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Fabian
I'm considering selling off my modo collection, which is pretty big (have been playing for many years).

Do those people/sites who offer to buy entire collections offer decent money for them, or will you lose like a billion %? Not sure how to go about it really, not like I'm manually selling 80k+ cards any time soon anyway.
I've been considering considering doing the same. I'd email all the large bot chains for offers and let them know you have asked for best offers from everyone.
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07-17-2013 , 10:50 AM
Yeah just get offers from various ones. It's a lot less of a hassle than to go and sell off your $1 cards by yourself. You can certainly squeeze some value out by selling the high end stuff yourself, but it's gonna take so long to do that for most things since you can't easily undercut the bots.
I've sold to mtgotraders a couple times and I don't regret it.
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07-17-2013 , 12:11 PM
One thing I might add to the message is "I can always sell them to bots myself.".
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07-17-2013 , 01:44 PM
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I have no experience with modern but it's probably worth noting that you don't really need to stuff your deck with a ton of artifacts to make Tezz "good" anyway.

Definitely keep the thread posted about any experimenting you do. I don't play a ton of modern but I just might if it was possible to make a competitive Tezzeret deck, I loved him in standard. The ability to impulse every turn is pretty strong and the ability to blow out slow/mana screwed opponents by making 5/5s is nothing to sneeze at.
Any words of wisdom for someone who has never played, let alone built, a Tezzeret deck before? I was mostly planning on starting with a UB Control deck with maybe 15 or so Artifacts thrown in around the Damnations, Thoughtseizes, and Thirst for Knowledges (amongst other things). Was considering splashing white for Esper Charm but that may be too cute with Thirst for Knowledge and Tezzeret being draw engines. Perhaps a red splash for Blood Moon and Slaughter Games in the sideboard. One nice thing about running only one or two colors in Modern is you aren't as vulnerable to Blood Moon (which is plenty of free wins) and you don't have to kill yourself with your mana base.
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07-17-2013 , 03:45 PM
I had a good experience selling to MTGOTraders. I got bids from them and from Marlon (marlonmtgo.com).
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07-17-2013 , 03:51 PM
Nothing more awesome then finding out these 38 Ancestral Mask's in my collection from drafting Mercadian are somehow worth 100+ tix. Now if I could only find something to do with these 8 cube tickets
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07-17-2013 , 05:22 PM
Thanks for the input guys. What other big chains should I be looking at besides mtgotraders and marlon? Which bot(s) tend to have decent buy prices?
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07-17-2013 , 07:23 PM
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Nothing more awesome then finding out these 38 Ancestral Mask's in my collection from drafting Mercadian are somehow worth 100+ tix. Now if I could only find something to do with these 8 cube tickets
of course that means you drafted that set 30+ times, which is obviously a huge beat
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07-17-2013 , 07:29 PM
Also cubing is still fun <3

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07-17-2013 , 08:24 PM
I don't know why you showed a Jitte in the sideboard.
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07-17-2013 , 08:34 PM
sword AND jitte in the board. thats dedication
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07-17-2013 , 08:35 PM
Forgot to draft a win condition :/

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07-17-2013 , 08:38 PM
I first picked jitte, the draft didn't end up going in that direction though. I did side them in (along with the 4/4 dorks) against the UR burn deck in the finals, not that I ever drew them anyway. Won the draft fairly easily.
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