That's what I thought for the way my deck was going, but let's say I was going towards u/b having picked harbinger/dreamspoiler witches/angler or sentinels. Is the pick winnower or whelm? I don't really know how to value those two cards.

Or,

Let's say somehow I ended up going G/x, where x is either blue or black, how do the green cards in this pack compare to the blue or black cards?

Whelm is pretty decent, I don't mind picking it here in U/B.

Playing G/x, leaf glider is very good. Easy to underrate, but a very solid card that you don't mind having a few of in pretty much any green deck. Fertile ground is also very solid, especially when it enables the green/everything deck that is splashing for Nameless inversion, lash out, and mulldrifter, etc.

whelm is often sooooooooo good. saves cards from removal, timewalks, reuse mulldrifter...etc etc

Pack 1, Pick 5:






Oaken Brawler, Smokebraider, Stonybrook Angler, Fertile Ground, Moonglove Winnower, Elvish Eulogist, Lairwatch Giant, Spellstutter Sprite, Goatnapper, Merrow Commerce, Boggart Harbinger

Ok, I picked the Goatnapper, but it only seems like an ok card.

How do you value Goatnapper?
Going U/B do I want the angler?
Going G/x, do I want fertile ground or do I want the angler/boggart harbinger?
Is it definitely boggart harbinger over winnower?

Angler is the best card there imo. Goatnapper is filler. Smokebraider is awesome if you have elements going.

So like many others, this thread has for better or worse inspired me to download MTG:O again. I'm thinking I'd like to purchase an extended deck and polish up my old affinity deck for extended if affinity is still viable. I was just wondering if anybody here plays extended. How difficult is the average premiere extended event compared to a PTQ? What decks are tier 1? I'd like to play some sort of Tog, blue control, or tron deck, but I suppose I would play anything that isn't RDWish or goblins.

I heard constructed events are way softer than drafts. I think the effective "rake" is a lot less than limited because you arent opening product, you just pay tickets to enter, though you do have to buy cards for your deck (but you can resell for small loss probably).

Look on magicthegathering.com or starcitygames.com, im sure they will have a lot of resources.

If worst comes to worst play any deck with 4 Tarmogoyf

I missed posting a day, so I'll make two posts.

Pack 1, Pick 6:





Oaken Brawler, Hurly-Burly, Peppersmoke, Consuming Bonfire, Elvish Handservant, Broken Ambitions, Cenn's Heir, Facevaulter, Ghostly Changeling, Captivating Glance

Ok, I picked the bonfire here, and I think that's the best card if I'm going R/W, right? Hurly Burly is ok, but I think they come around later.

If I'm going B/W, I think the pick is Ghastly Changeling, but I'm not sure. I feel like captivating glance is filler, but peppersmoke and broken ambitions are a little below changeling. Would anybody pick broken ambition or peppersmoke higher? How do those rank in comparison to eachother?

Pack 1, Pick 7





Thieving Sprite, Whirlpool Whelm, Adder-Staff Boggart, Lairwatch Giant, Spiderwig Boggart, Boggart Forager, Ringskipper, Hunt Down, Hearthcage Giant

This seems like a pretty easy pack either way we're going. R/W picks hearthcage giant and U/B picks Whelm. Giant seems like a monster when he resolves, but obviously the price is an issue. I assume I got it this late because other people were picking cards like tarfire or lash out above it. I assume picking those cards above hearthcage is correct?

I really did not like playing Hearthcage in 40 card league games. It's extremely expensive and by the time he does manage to come out, he's often not all that - I'd imagine that's an even bigger issue in draft games where the decks will be much stronger on average. I like Adder-Staff for red. Seems like he'd be a great early game creature, and I really like early clashes to help organize your game.

I don't remember magicthegathering.com being all that good for anything but entertaining or casual articles, and if I remember correctly starcitygames let's any loon who's Top 8'd in a Grand Prix write a constructed article.

Well, Flores and BDM regurgitate a ton of decklists, and I think Flores is on point a lot.

What do you mean by regurgitate? Seems to have a negative connotation. Him being on point does not.

macdaddy: ghostling changling, thieving sprite

So I just spent 3 hours downloading the new MTGO only to find that it's not online yet? Bah this thread gets me all excited to play and everything is down ;(

They're saying it should be back up by thursday

The new server is up, kind of. It has almost no functionality (only trading and casual play only - and trading doesn't really work) and it keeps crashing. I enjoy playing Magic Online but the developers are very very unprofessional. The software is poorly designed and implemented and they keep trying to defend it, claiming it's a work in progress. Well if it's a work in progress that's nowhere near done, then you shouldn't kill the old version and force everyone to upgrade!

lol Wizards. I'm surprised this went up today, given their history with major updates:

http://www.starcitygames.com/php/new...p?Article=5551

Nah. Everyone netdecks so it's basically a guessing game to see if you get a queue with a bunch of good matchups for your deck or bad matchups. Pretty much a crapshoot.

It's pretty easy to go infinite (or at least pay not very much) in limited events, assuming you know what you are doing.

I remember reading something weeks before they did the update that it would take a bit to get fully functional, they're rolling it out in piece by piece on purpose to try and fix minor issues along the way.

They write about successful decks from events.

Ok, well Wizards is claiming it will take several months of dedicated coding to get leagues working. Frankly, I find that difficult to believe. I just hope they're not just trying to exploit their userbase by forcing them to play drafts/premier events/etc which they make **** tons more profit off of. Either way, I'm sadly done with Magic Online at least for a few months.

Has anybody tried any of the other online card games? I've got a hunger for them now and need a fix besides playing with theme decks.

Seriously, several months of dedicated coding? Trust me on this one, that is total bull****. Even if they were completely reworking the 'league code' from scratch they still can look to the old code for help with difficult concepts such as saving data to the database and finding opponents for matches.

Not that I'm doubting you here, but could you provide a link? This is one of the most ******ed things I've ever encountered short of me missing my opportunity for rakeback at FT when they offered the switch.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1014630

wow...if I were actually spending money on this company I would probably stop

Wow, just wow. Thanks for the link.

Yeah this might do it for me.