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Old 06-28-2012, 12:25 PM   #136
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Re: Which games would you list as the top 10 best (NOT favorite) games ever?

Not respecting ammo scarcity was something i was guilty of to. #

In Resident Evil 2 I got all the way to the end boss with only a 4 pistol bullets, a knife, and 2 green herbs. I had to go back a few save points.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:25 PM   #137
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1. Zelda OOT
2. Pokemon blue/green/red/yellow (there was a green version (in Japan))
3. FF7
4. Kingdom Hearts
5. GoldenEye 64
6. The Elder Scrolls
7. WoW
8. Socom 1/2/3/CA
9. Splinter Cell
10. Quake
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:33 PM   #138
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I loved both SOCOM 1 and SOCOM 2 and yes they introduced online gaming to consoles and were amazing tactical shooters, but I don't think they deserve a spot in a top 10.
The early socoms were just revolutionary for online console gaming, while they literally are my favorite games of all time, I point at that the socom series were the most popular and successful PlayStation 2 titles ever but, did you guys know that the ass holes at sony just shut down zipper interactive like 2 months ago? they blamed zipper for socom 4 being a failure even though it was obviously sony's ****ing fault for letting the psn get hacked and shut down for 5 weeks when socom 4 launched
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:33 PM   #139
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^^which Elder scrolls?
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:33 PM   #140
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^that's a tough question so I was a coward and just put down all of them
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:39 PM   #141
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:10 PM   #142
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The early socoms were just revolutionary for online console gaming, while they literally are my favorite games of all time, I point at that the socom series were the most popular and successful PlayStation 2 titles ever but, did you guys know that the ass holes at sony just shut down zipper interactive like 2 months ago? they blamed zipper for socom 4 being a failure even though it was obviously sony's ****ing fault for letting the psn get hacked and shut down for 5 weeks when socom 4 launched
In my opinion every SOCOM after SOCOM 2 sucked. I think the game works best as an 8v8 without any vehicles, as when you increase it it is hard to work together efficiently and games generally turn more into chaos, especially with the vehicles. Also the large teams destroyed the fun of the headset for me.

Also, the time between first kill and average round time was way too high, leading into long periods of waiting. Are you US or EU? if EU, ex-OGS member here .
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:32 PM   #143
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it's not damn near unplayable when I'm sure a million people have beaten the game. I think it's only something that stands out as having bad controls when you play it today, back then I really had no issues with it. People complain about resident evil control scheme because it took the series so long to evolve past that, not because it was released with intentionally bad controls or whatever ridiculous claim you made.
Of course they released it with intentionally bad controls, they said it was part of the ambiance. It's not like rotating and only being able to walk forward was the only available control option, nor were fixed cameras the only option. The chose to do it to make the game fit their artistic style.

It had bad controls then, but whatever, it was a fun, scary game. Now it's atrocious.

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I agree fixed angles were very irritating sometimes, especially in the bigger rooms with enemies since often you had to run from enemies and came into a spot where you could defend again but were at such an awkard angle that you had no idea wether you were shooting the zombie or a wall 10 feet next to it... but they certainly also had advantages. It DID add to the scary factor if you compare it to its generation. People did not expect free cameramovement yet, a ton of games had a form of uncontrolable or limited camera movement.

Note that in RE1 Capcom deliberately used it as a sort of mechanic. It was very often you were exploring an area and knew there was a zombie in it since it was mumbling, but had no way of seeing it yet. Imo that worked in making **** intense. Walking "into" a camera holding a knife because the zombie could pop up right in front of you any second was awesome.

Agree that not being able to see a zombie that is about to bite my face off is certainly scary, but I question anyone that would willfully pick that option over...uh...almost any other actually.

MGS2 gets a ton of heat, and some of it rightfully so, but it's control/camera scheme is still erection inducing. Fixed camera but free flowing movement AND the ability to toggle into first person and look down the barrel of the gun that I'm pointing. You could hang an anvil off this thing right now.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:41 AM   #144
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RE4 is the only resident evil I have played and I found it to be one of the best games I have ever played and a pretty scary and intense experience. Of course I didn't find out it had a run button until I got far into it and found a boss that couldn't be beaten with out sprinting.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:28 AM   #145
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I think Ultima Online is objectively one of the greatest games ever made

They established the MMO genre, and in 1997 that game did mind-blowing things that nobody was ever able to do in any game that came before it

They took a huge risk to do it, too. Developing that game was a massive undertaking, they were working with brand new technology, so many things could've gone wrong in ways they couldn't even imagine because nobody had done a truly massive triple-A MMO before, and that was all done with no guarantee that the market would even be willing to pay a monthly fee to play the game (which also hadn't really been done before)

So that's the game I always think of when this question comes up.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:51 PM   #146
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lol, no. If you tried to make a top 20 list you would see that it doesn't come anywhere close, saying that's "objectively" one of the greatest games is a laugh since it's clear that you just really liked it and it's probably your favorite game ever.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:13 AM   #147
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It's maybe my 5th or 6th favorite

Are we only supposed to pick games that we didn't like?

I think it's got a pretty strong case. It established the viability of what's currently the biggest genre if I'm not mistaken, and it's the genre people think of as "The Holy Grail of Gaming"

There were MUDs and a primitive MMO or two before it, but Ultima Online was like the Model T. It pioneered the biggest and most economically demanding and technically complex genre, and it had no direct competitors for 2 years until Everquest in 1999
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:38 AM   #148
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mmorpgs are the holy grail of gaming? hahahaha
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:57 AM   #149
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Yeah I've heard a number of game developers call it that, never heard of any other genre being referred to in that way. Probably because it's the hardest genre to develop for, and it yields potentially the greatest rewards?
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:31 AM   #150
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RE4 was an excellent game but it already started to show signs of the bad turns the series took in RE5. RE games shouldn't be about large open spaces where you have to mow down hundreds of zombies with your enormous amount of weapons and ammo to get across to the other side of the field.

Resident Evil was best when it was about small narrow spaces with limited ammo and the fear of coming across just a single enemy was really there.

I remember just sitting in front of my Playstation and the legendary door animation coming on the screen and I was just praying that there wouldn't be any zombie mumbling in the next room because I was 1 bite away from dying and only had some ammo left and needed to find a typewriter fast. Or coming across a boss when I had literally no ammo or health left and just had to replay through an entire portion of the game because **** what else was I going to do? Those were the moments about RE that I'll never forget, not some epic boss fight that wasn't really unique or scary which were the best moments in RE4.

I think I found RE1 the most scary one but RE2 slightly better all around. RE3 was decent but aside from a few scares when Nemesis blasted on your screen the game wasn't challenging enough to become legimately scary. RE4 was very good but felt like than an action game. Sometimes you get a scare because of a new enemy and the chainsaw guys will always be a little scary, but it's about blasting through enemies instead of survival. The only few times where it becomes scary is when the enemies are threatening to overrun you, but you're never walking around thinking "I better not come across enemies right now because I can't ****ing handle them right now".
I agree, well said!

for me, Red Dead Redemption is just about the greatest game.
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