Btw while I agree that the defenders are really retarded in those videos, you also have to consider that a certain level of retardation ( obv below the video level ) is necessary. A perfect simulation has been done before in an NFL game test concerning defensive lineups of major teams vs minor teams and the fact that in reality the minor team has no chance at all with the QB getting sacked nearly every time.

To translate this to FIFA, if the defenders were to follow full reality rules, a 3 star team would have immense trouble scoring against let's say Inter. How fun would it be to always end up 5-0, 7-1 etc only because the star level is different. As of right now, it is possible to play a 1 star team against a 4 star team and still have a minor chance. That would all fall out in a full simulation.

Do you really want to force everyone to play 5 star team online? How fun would that really be? I wouldn't like that game. You have to remember that while a simulation is nice, a full blown simulation is simply not suitable for a game. Think of UT: you would pretty much have a guaranteed win in every cup by just getting 4 gold defenders first. Where is the fun?

Now let's add to the fact that you do not have full control over the movement of your attackers and that most people have less tactical vision than a top tier striker, that would mean that automated defenders will always be better than the attackers, leading to a VERY high amount of games with no goal. I wouldn't like that. There has to be a certain level of standardization, else the game is just not fun.

Obv I'm not advocating an arcade game here, just that there has to be a limit to the simulation too. Reality is not always fun.

I don't get it. Those videos were made in May. How have they got any relevance to fifa12?

It's fifa 11 **** he wants to be gone by fifa 12

im in for club on the PS3, I was mostly a winger on 11

I'm in for club ps3 also. I have a feeling ST and CAM are popular so I'll play a laggy LB or CDM. Never played clubs before but I reach >5k points in H2H so I'm not totally drooling.

If i played UT this year and only played with a bronze team grinding the bronze cup that wouldn't really impact my money making from playing games as such would it? Just been doing that in Fifa 11 with a Nigerian team and have won 35 games and lost 1 so far they are far beyond EZ mode

Think weve bumped heads on TS4, lol

Demo out on the 13th right?

You probably beat me 3-0,3-0 I am terrible at TS4 still a cool game though

Yup, I think the game comes out on the 27th in USA, 29th in UK and I know it comes out on the 30th in South Africa

Just pre-ordered this, will be playing some club PS3 again this year. Ok FIFA11 has a solid amount of bugs but still the best game i've ever played.

awesome.


list of players for ps3 club so far:

Cruizn63
Bramm86
EmpireUK
3pnym
Aigyptos
YouR_DooM
JLBorloo
cashy
vaNq
Viva La Crayon
Francis M.H.
JsTs
BennyQuack


with a couple on the fence. sorry if i missed anyone. just add your name to the list.

so when i create my guy, should i aim to make him a position that everyone else is less likely to be using (i'm assuming most 2p2ers play forward/mid, so those positions will probably be taken) to make him more compatible for our club games?

Wanna try and see if we can get a little formation/position information too? I'll be down for CDM/CB/RB/LB spots

you should make him whatever you feel like playing imo. most of us playing an attacking position really dont mind having to move down to play from time to time.

sure, will work on that now!