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11-06-2011 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Mainfield
Anything?
It might be because you didn't select the appropriate casus belli when you started the war. When you get to the page where you have the option to declare war, you'll have the option to choose your casus belli. It's default is no casus belli, but if you click on the other options (like conquest or trade dispute), then you'll receive the appropriate amount of infamy for when you want peace.

I made this mistake when I first started, resulting in 50 odd infamy for conquering the Incas. >.>
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11-06-2011 , 01:38 PM
The History of Castille, 1399 - ?

Enrique III, 1390-1423

When Castille was inherited by Enrique III, it was already a major Kingdom within what the Greeks called Iberia and the Romans Hispania. The trigger-happy King knew this would have to change and found himself having to wait 9 years before his new advisor, a gambler yet very acute person, reminded him of his casus belli against the remainder of Moorish presence in Europe: Granada. Their presence was a shame to all of Christendom, even more so to Castille who enveloped it. The King was troubled he hadn't acted earlier, but quickly secured Portuguese support (in a bid to demonstrate his friendship) for the action and entered the war. Granada was quickly annexed under overwhelming Castillian superiority and some Portuguese support. Sadly, their friendship would soon be tested.

After annexing Granada, Enrique sat on his ass. Until he heard rumors of Aragonese presence in Northern Europe. This was a strategic key point to hit Aragon, but Castille did not yet posses any cb against its neighbour. Because the King's advisor was still new to the mechanics of world conquest, he was easily convinced by a conniving representative of the Portuguese court who claimed he should "just go for it now". And so Castille found himself in a war with Aragon and Navarra. Occupation went well and Navarra was annexed. At this point, the French decided to intervene and declared war on the now excommunicated King (wtf). Castille, in a mad rush of stress from these events, took as much from Aragon as possible in a hurry and carelessly became known around the world as King Enrique III, Dishonourable Scum. That was a problem, and Portugal renegued on its alliance at the first sign of trouble. Great ally.

And so, Castille had to fight off most of Europe that were trying to invade and finally prevailed not losing anything. The King ended his days waiting it out while his reputation was slowly restored, knowing he had to calm down for the good of Castille. His dreams of a unified peninsula would have to wait.

Carlos I, 1423 - 1441

Carlos I was focused on finishing his father's work but still had to wait for a proper CB on Aragon. And so, he used a trade war cb on Venetia to accomplish a mission set upon him from God: to set foot on Italian soil and conquer. He told Milan he wouldn't touch those possessions and foolishly thought he could take Ventia and that would be cool. During the war, he realized Venetia had **** provinces all over and would have to conquer them first. And so he made Venetia release a bunch of stuff, making it much easier for Milan to grab it after the war was over but before Castille had time to start the next.

This pissed off Carlos I and he allied with France. In a bid to decrease quickly growing Milanese power, the two invaded Milan while it was busy fighting Austria (funny war, seeing how the future would unfold) who quickly made peace. It is tough to admit, but the French and Castillian forces made many tactical errors and were crushed to pieces as boasted in Milanese history books ever since. A few hundred ducats were paid in reparations, a token of good faith according to Milan.

With his Italian ambitions left behind, Carlos I decided it was time to finish off the unification of Spanish lands and easily conquered Aragon in a short war which he claimed was due to border dispute. Whatever will make the Pope happy, because we can't have the same sort as dad can we.

Felipe I, 1441 - 1466

There was a lot of friction with Portugal during Felipe I's reign. This friction was mostly caused by Portugal who got their panties in a bunch because Castille kept about 15% of its armies in a high-supply province near their border. Really, this wasn't the reason; Portugal merely used this to complain to Christendom and the Ottomans in order to make Castille seem like a bad boy. Castille wanted to respect Portuguese integrity however, knowing the world would not stand for its eradication just yet.

With a lot of wine and games flowing (read: player's roommate) distracting Felipe I for a decade, he totally missed on Portugal's action in Africa. And so he was presented a fait-accompli: North Africa would be Portuguese. For now.

And so, Felipe set his eyes to the rich lands of Mutapa and Swahili. Their gold provinces would nicely fill the King's coffers. 4 important provinces were quickly seized and the rest would surely be annexed in a war to come very soon. Sadly, the King died.

Carlos II, 1466 - 1497

King Carlos II quickly set to finish the conquest of East Africa. The lands of Mutapa and Swahili were claimed for Castille. Castilel then claimed 3 minor colonies in the New World, having sent their explorers after boasts from Portugal that there was huge land and wealth to be found.

The treacherous Portuguese quickly machinated with England and attacked Castille while its armies were halfway across the world. Castille's barracks went on a recruiting spree and raised over 40k men, but after seeing half of its army decimated by an Ottoman Expeditionary Force, Castille surrendered. This was a bad move from the young King, since the Ottomans were almost beaten and Castille still had over 25k fresh troops in a bordering province. Live and learn, Castille was forced to give up its Carribean possessions.

Mad about his loss of the Carribean, the King attempted an early invasion of a very strongly united India.

To be Continued.

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11-06-2011 , 01:39 PM
Playing an awesome Hindustan game and now I really need to stop and read a few hours about some boring ass proteins... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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11-06-2011 , 01:41 PM
Anyone got a save game for the last session? I'd like to see how screwed I got from the ai/lackof ai. I can see that I've lost a province to rebels in Sri Lankar, and maybe the Maldives too. Also most of my merchants have gone, I had 5 in most centres of trade. :| Good job on that 44% treasury for minting too AI, and wasting all of my army and navy tradition on crappy generals and admirals..
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11-06-2011 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyingbanana
It might be because you didn't select the appropriate casus belli when you started the war. When you get to the page where you have the option to declare war, you'll have the option to choose your casus belli. It's default is no casus belli, but if you click on the other options (like conquest or trade dispute), then you'll receive the appropriate amount of infamy for when you want peace.

I made this mistake when I first started, resulting in 50 odd infamy for conquering the Incas. >.>
Nah I've definitely chosen the right one. I'm thinking now that maybe a peaceful annex gets 25% infamy, and the war force annex is full?
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11-06-2011 , 02:08 PM
If it is a reconquest CB you only get the discount on the specific province(s), the rest are full price.
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11-06-2011 , 02:11 PM
I've had both conquest and reconquest. They say 25%(or 0% for reconquest) infamy 100% prestige and 100% cost for
-Full annexation
-Conquest/reconquest of X province.

However, after 3 wars it's always given me the full infamy price for annexation.
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11-06-2011 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Mainfield
I've had both conquest and reconquest. They say 25%(or 0% for reconquest) infamy 100% prestige and 100% cost for
-Full annexation
-Conquest/reconquest of X province.

However, after 3 wars it's always given me the full infamy price for annexation.
It's different. When you annex, you pay a price to annex, 4 Infamy to annex + 4 Infamy for every province you take. A single province nation costs 8 infamy to annex.

With that CB, you don't pay the price for the annexation itself, but get a discount on those 4 infamy + another discount on the provinces you have a claim on. The rest if full price.
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11-06-2011 , 02:15 PM
For reconquest the discount is only on whatever provinces you have cores on. Conquest the discount is for whatever provinces it says in the mission. It says Full annexation because the value for full annexation is affected. Rather then say 12 infamy for a 3 province nation, with conquest it would be 9 infamy (2 at full price, 1 at 25%).
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11-06-2011 , 02:18 PM
Pretty sure annexing itself costs infamy. Could be my modded past tho.
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11-06-2011 , 02:21 PM
Just checked, taking a one province nation costs 8 infamy with no casus belli.

As I said, 4 ( to annex ) +4 ( for the province ).


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11-06-2011 , 05:10 PM
History of Castille, Continued

The conquest of India was a major failboat, reinforcements were cut off as the Castillian navy had low morale after coming straight from Spain. Thus, Castille lost its first army in India and WP'd. Then the King died.

Queen Isabel I, 1497 - ?

Queen Isabel the Great oversaw a golden age in the Iberian peninsula. She formed Spain as soon as war with the Indians was over. She started her reign by asking Portugal to hurry up the transfer of assets to Spain and had to declare war on them to get the Canarias (mission from God).

Teaming up with Milan, Spain upgraded its armed forces to the new European standards and re-invaded the Indians. While Milan was busy figuring out its way through the sub-continent (to great success), Spain wiped out the natives from Northwestern India. After vassalizing Nadj, Spain peaced and took the bullet for its ally to gain them Goa. Spain also annexed multiple territories in the Northwest and blocked off strategically the Ottomans, who were also busy in Northern India, from expanding further South without crossing Spanish land.

Between adventures in India, two Portuguese provinces were further annexed following missions from God. The Iberian peninsula is coming ever closer to unity. With Portugal having pledged its European territories to Spain and the transfer date set to 1532, this long-time goal will soon come to life.

The rest of mainland India was split between Spain and her new major ally, Milan, in the Second Crusade.

With Queen Isabel I firmly installed on the throne, this golden era of Spanish expansion is sure to continue. Only God knows how much glory is yet to come for this most beautiful of nations.
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11-06-2011 , 05:50 PM
moar aar guys, liking it and learning
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11-06-2011 , 09:27 PM
It took until several minutes after this screenshot to figure out that they had randomly taken some provinces up around modern-day Estonia (to answer the question "where are your troops, exactly?"):



Either way:



u mad, Bohemia?
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11-07-2011 , 12:14 AM
The Glorious Free People of the Free Republic of The Free Hansa demand to know whether the Milan/Austria Alliance is a permanent one. Given that these 2 nations have acted in accord so far, they constitute a grave threat to the European balance of power, with a combined army of 280k.
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11-07-2011 , 01:19 AM
You can add Castille's forces to that.
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11-07-2011 , 01:57 AM
Jim, FYI I played forward to 1532 and found there are at least 3 conditions for capital moving:
1) having the money - easy to prepare for
2) need positive stability
3) need no rebels active

The last 2 are kinda random and might take more time, so can't promise a perfectly immediate transfer (especially the rebels can take time to hunt down). Will be as soon as it's possible though. Trust me I do not want to stay in Europe.

Edit: Also I would expect that another condition is not being at war, so don't freak out, it's the game mechanics - not me.
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11-07-2011 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
The Glorious Free People of the Free Republic of The Free Hansa demand to know whether the Milan/Austria Alliance is a permanent one. Given that these 2 nations have acted in accord so far, they constitute a grave threat to the European balance of power, with a combined army of 280k.
While the nations of Milan and Austria have worked in concert many times in the past it has been because it was mutually beneficial to do so, there is currently no permanent alliance between the two powers.

However, seeing as the strategic situation in Europe has not changed recently it would be reasonable to assume the long-standing good relations between Austria and Milan will continue. In addition, Milan has guaranteed Austria and any aggressive attack on the Austrian Kingdom will result in a Declaration of War by Milan on the aggressor(s).

To quickly address the concerns raised, Milan currently has no intentions of engulfing all of Europe in a land war. While relations with France have been strained in the past recent history has shown that Milan and France are capable of getting along, and we hope that that will continue in the future. Milan however is concerned with the continuing growth of The Hansa as both an economic and a land power in Europe which Milan sees as a destabilizing influence. Particularly as The Hansa has shown itself willing to engage in aggressive wars of territorial conquest against its neighbors time and time again.
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11-07-2011 , 02:38 AM
History of Portugal, 1492-1522

Regency for Joao IV, November 1489 - October 25, 1502

Unable to declare any wars, the Regents continued with peaceful colonial and mercantile expansion. Portugal's colonies expanded throughout the Carribean, including the long awaited peaceful transfer of Barahonas colony, from Spain.

Portugal's hostile neighbour Castille finally gained 'rightful' claims on all of Aragon's former holdings which they'd illegally annexed. Eager to improve their name and reputation with the world, they changed their name to Spain and moved their court to Madrid. Playing along with their ruse for the sake of hopefully reducing the tension between the Iberian nations, the court of Portugal sent their formal congratulations to the new Spanish court in Madrid. True to their evil nature, Spain responded by formally Insulting Portugal and declaring war, launching a massive land invasion of tiny Portugal. Spain was aided by new allies in Austria AND Milan, who prevented Portugal's allies from assisting in her time of need.


Reign of Joao IV, November 1502 - ongoing

Badly outmatched, Portugal immediately sought peace with the aggressive Spanish. Spain outrageously claimed to be the rightful rulers of Portugal - more outrageous still, their ridiculous claims were backed by Milan and Austria, and no other European nations offered to come to Portugal's aid. Joao conceded defeat, and after a long negotiation a deal was finally reached - Spain would receive all of Portugal's Iberian homeland, and the Canary Islands outpost, which they had somehow made a trumped up claim on. Portugal would be allowed to keep their capital in Lisbon until their colonies developed further, but in the 1530s would move their court overseas. Portugal had been spurned by Europe, and King Joao knew the best course of action was to get the hell out. Europe was a dirty rat-infested continent, anyways.

King Joao took advantage of the new peace to launch a final conquest of the Incas, before anyone got any cute ideas about splitting Inca between two nations. The native were quickly defeated, and their remaining land and treasury sent to Portugal.

Meanwhile, the Protestant Reformation began in Germany, seeing the birth of the Protestant and Reformed faiths, for those dissatisfied with traditional Christianity (an in particular, with the Pope and other Christian leaders). Feeling rejected by the Pope (he never helped Portugal anyways), Joao embraced the new faiths and officially converted*. The people of Portugal thought differently though, and rebellions erupted throughout the colonies, and what little remained of home. The rebels were slowly but surely defeated as order was restored. Spain took advantage of the disorder to declare war and take another chunk of Iberian Portugal (Portugal's stronger vassals, Morocco and Algiers, took advantage of this war and rebelled as well, declaring their independance.) Too busy with the rebellions, King Joao quickly reached peace with all the parties.

Little else of serious importance happened - King Joao busied himself with the relatively quiet tasks of religious conversion and colonial expansion. He also passed a number of religious reforms, most notably the Dissolution of Monasteries and the introduction of Church Taxes. Portugal looks forward to similar levels of peace and quiet in the foreseeable future, as it plans for the stressful forced moving of it's capital.


* I accidentally picked Reformed, when I meant to pick Protestant for the production bonus. Was a p bad brain fart - it's called the Reformation, after all.. sigh.

For reward: could I get my state religion switched to Protestant please? I'll eat the gold cost of new missionaries, just don't want another -4 stability. Does anyone strongly object to correcting that honest-but-serious mistake?
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11-07-2011 , 02:47 AM
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While the nations of Milan and Austria have worked in concert many times in the past it has been because it was mutually beneficial to do so, there is currently no permanent alliance between the two powers.
It was of benefit to neither nation to enable the illegal annexation of the peaceful merchant nation of Portugal. Yet they acted together anyways, along side a Spanish nation who were more than strong enough to complete the task on their own. All of Europe's rulers can see Milan's lies are as plain as day. They are not only engaged in an alliance, but have taken aggressive action to disrupt and destroy the only other alliance capable of contending with them, using a totally illegal war of aggression as the pretext to do so.
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11-07-2011 , 03:04 AM




Problem, Europe?

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11-07-2011 , 04:00 AM
A couple questions as I've entered the 1500s:
- Should I be integrating artillery into my armies, or just keeping stacks of them around for sieges? (or ignoring them entirely?)
- The reformation happened and lots of states are converting to protestant, much to my dismay as each convert loses me 10 imperial authority. How does the reformation affect game mechanics/the HRE?
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11-07-2011 , 05:29 AM
Artillery have good Fire values, but Fire efficiency/modifier is kinda low early on. You could add a few units, especially if you have generals with good Fire modifiers. I wouldn't count on them much until you have a good mod value. Those values depend on tech level; you can see them at http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Tech_tree . (That's also why Cavalry are so prized very early on, because they have a huge shock mod compared to Infantry, so they're much deadlier in the shock phase.) As far as I know those mods are basically multiplied onto the units' base stat (and then further multiplied by discipline) to determine real combat effectiveness.

As far as religions, each one has different modifiers. You can hover over the icons in provinces to see them. Generally Protestant is considered the best since it gives +tax and +production. Reformed is great for small countries that do a ton of trading (-tax, +trade). Catholic is only really good for Colonizers, but also only catholics can become the Papal Controller, which has it's own modifiers (to prestige and such).

As far as the HRE, you can demand religious unity to anyone who switches. They'll either give in and switch, or refuse and then you can force them to convert in a war. Getting them to switch either way will give you 10 authority each. So you can end up generating a lot of authority, which can help get reforms pushed through. It works the same if you convert too, so you can demand the Catholics convert with you and such. Having different religion will kill your relationship with other countries, so it's best to start with converting the electors, imo.

After 75 years the random province conversion events will slow down to almost nothing, so take advantage while it lasts imo.
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11-07-2011 , 05:34 AM
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Artillery have good Fire values, but Fire efficiency/modifier is kinda low early on. You could add a few units, especially if you have generals with good Fire modifiers. I wouldn't count on them much until you have a good mod value. Those values depend on tech level; you can see them at http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Tech_tree . (That's also why Cavalry are so prized very early on, because they have a huge shock mod compared to Infantry, so they're much deadlier in the shock phase.) As far as I know those mods are basically multiplied onto the units' base stat (and then further multiplied by discipline) to determine real combat effectiveness.

As far as religions, each one has different modifiers. You can hover over the icons in provinces to see them. Generally Protestant is considered the best since it gives +tax and +production. Reformed is great for small countries that do a ton of trading (-tax, +trade). Catholic is only really good for Colonizers, but also only catholics can become the Papal Controller, which has it's own modifiers (to prestige and such).

As far as the HRE, you can demand religious unity to anyone who switches. They'll either give in and switch, or refuse and then you can force them to convert in a war. Getting them to switch either way will give you 10 authority each. So you can end up generating a lot of authority, which can help get reforms pushed through. It works the same if you convert too, so you can demand the Catholics convert with you and such. Having different religion will kill your relationship with other countries, so it's best to start with converting the electors, imo.

After 75 years the random province conversion events will slow down to almost nothing, so take advantage while it lasts imo.
To religion HRE part, electors won't elect you if you have different religion.
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11-07-2011 , 05:36 AM
Thanks - I think I remember seeing a button when I clicked another country (my mission right now is to convert Tuscany) that said something like "demand religion switch", but it said that if the target country refuses then I lose like 10-20 prestige - is that how it works? Trying mass conversions sounds like an easy way to lose a ton of prestige if they all decline. If they do, do I get a CB on them?

I'm currently the Papal Controller but I don't really care, as I fight a lot of land wars which gives me prestige (no intentions to colonize anywhere really, I spent too much of the game with 0 sea provinces to have a naval presence) and excommunicating people to take non-core provinces involves too much infamy for me to stay emperor.

Does that tech tree chart work off of tech level, year, or require both? I think I'm at Land 16 right now, does that mean I'm like two levels away from my infantry beating the **** out of everyone else? (presuming they're a little behind, which I think is the case except for tech-heavy OPMs)
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