hasn't really been a big international LAN tourney since ESWC 2009 in which EHOME just wiped the floor with everybody. Its hard to call now since the Euros have caught up and also everyone is on fairly equal footing since its a new game.

MYM is still regarded as the best team in dota by many. Some will say CCM. Some will say Na'vi. I believe there was a dota boom in Asia a couple of years ago which would explain why you do not know any of the asian teams. One of the best chinese teams LGD, also disbanded as soon as this tourney was announced because some rich son of a billionaire decided to persuade or sponsor 4 of the 5 members of that team because there was some bad blood between that one member and another team they purchased CCM becoming (iG). Most people agree that the asian teams are better compared to the euro teams besides maybe mym and na'vi. M5 is definitely very good as well though.

Recently the chinese have not farmed as much as they used to like zsmj's 700 cs game but they still farm more than the euro's from what I have seen. They also stopped picking dusa and making linkens on morph which does go along with you saying that the Chinese are not farming as much anymore. Although i definitely have seen much more chinese games compared to the euros so perhaps I have some bias or perhaps the games i've seen were not good indicators.

Ye I'm kinda interested in this game, never actually played dota before, you can still sign up for the beta, iirc it's soonish, just go to the dota2 in steam and sign in and sign up for beta.

just saw that they changed the page...am signed up now!

dota is a great multiplayer game, definitely recommend it, and also League of Legends. LoL is free to play, so probably best to try that in the meantime, the games are pretty much the same.

Is dota2 confirmed as f2p? Or is it going to be $$s up front?

the metagame in dota has changed from 3-1-1 chinese rice style to more aggro jungle push hence the rise of some euro teams like MYM and ukraine ultra-aggressive Navi and EHOME's star shining slightly less bright


Also its funny that GGnet went 0-3, their practice partner is MYM and according to a ggnet player kebap they were thrashing them pretty good during dota2 scrims, winning 70% of games prob

EHOME's star shining less bright is because their team is completely different than the one that won ESWC, losing both Burning and KingJ and also due to the rise of a number of Chinese teams such as CCM.

There hasn't been an international competition since ESWC so how European teams would fare against Chinese teams in DOTA1 remains to be seen.

Rice style hasn't been seen in Chinese DOTA in a while. Nobody really picks say Medusa or Phantom Lancer anymore. Even less late game carries that used to dominate the metagame (morphling) aren't really seen anymore.

The current DOTA1 metagame consists of strong midgame carries that can push (syllabear, lycan, weaver, spectre) mixed with double jungle roaming and big teamfight monsters/mecha carriers (Lich, Veno, AA, Invoker, WR, Pugna).

No ****ing way it's gonna be subscribtion based or f2p. If it is, then Valve is stupid.

I am just not fan of the cartoony graphics/artwork. That said, I'll play it and decide between it and hon, depending on metagame. More action packed game wins. Ricingis boring.

metagame can always change depending on patches, etc... Besides, the metagame for progamers rarely affect pub play.

God, I hate watching these Dota2 streaming vids and having to sit through 10-15 minutes of team picking.. just go right to the game for Fs sake.

Ya I don't think Dota 2 is a viewer friendly Esport. I caught one live match with a lvl 6 first blood. Pretty yawn inducing.

yeah this pretty much. i watched alot of the stream and im disappointed .

games take waaaaaay 2 long too.

just make the game shorter, buff heros/items nerf towers/creeps, its not that hard.

It exists, it's called em mode