finally played the game for the first time today. i'm finding it really hard to adjust to the icons, interface and graphics after 8 years of wc3/dota. seems like a downgrade to me.

Finally got an invite today.... Installing now.

I would be really surprised if you still felt that way after 50 or so games

Most tilting thing about this game is how long it takes people to end games. I get the whole fountain camping thing but seriously when all 5 players are sitting in the fountain with mid rax down you don't need to run to Roshan and farm for another 10 minutes ffs.

why havent they put in a vote to concede option?

i have no gripes with this

not the LoL system PLEASE

the Dotalicious system would work fine

i think its 20 min then 5 man concede

more like 5. The dota 2 ui is objectively better.

If you're that 1 guy who won't concede prepare to get +4 reports on you. Anonymous conceding sounds good though.

Because an option to concede is AIDS.

I'm very glad they don't have one. Conceding works in coordinated games just as well as an actual option would, and it stops pubs from spamming the concede vote after 20 mins while they bitch and moan.

If you can't give up "officially" they are more likely to play it out. It's just true.

lol i think bakes didnt like my friend

people are going to bitch and moan anyway

make the option invisible, only accessible through the dropdown menu so you dont have to deal with lines of text asking for concede

don't understand hating the concede option

it will save you a lot of time in your life

we're two seconds into the game and the dude is bitching at me

i don't know who was yelling all that **** at the beginning 10 min but if it was you, AIDS as well

i was very friendly, your friend is a douchebag

but you guys seem to take the game incredibly seriously and you aren't afraid to make your ragey opinions known

that means you will fit right in to this community

Who wants to play out a game where the result is already known by everyone? If all 5 players on one team know they already lost, they shouldn't have to play the rest of the game, and usually even the winning team doesn't want to play out the game. I'd rather grab a faster win too.

dont think i yelled ever except saying stuff like niceeeeeeeee or YEAAAAAAH

his accent is bigger than mine if you cant tell them apart

also i was farming as juggernaught not doing much early game so i couldnt be yelling to anyone lol.

didnt rage once xD.

these are my feelings as well

I'm sure Valve has the creativity to come up with some kind of concede solution that doesn't involve spamming it to everyone in the first 10mins of the game and annoying everyone. Like, some kind of situation at the end, something that triggers it. Valve has always been pretty innovative when it comes to implementing new ideas so I would bet they could come up with something that makes sense.

I don't know where it was, but wasn't there a time when Valve was asking everyone their opinion of the concede option? Maybe it was just a random forum poll on another website. I think the majority opinion was no concede vote.

the only abandons i have in dota2 are obviously tilting spots where i know game is over but it will take like 20+ minutes to end

being able to avoid that is just so much better than maybe getting an insane comeback 1 in 20/30/40 games

its an easy easy tradeoff here

In both dota 1 and dota 2 I have played quite a good amount of games where a team with a significant - huge lead lost. It typically happens when the team with a huge advantage continues to feed or if the carry gets picked off by being arrogant farming somewhere alone.

I personally am not a fan of allowing forfeits because it does cause the losing team to give up more often than not. I played a lot of games in the past with the "!ff" option and you would see that annoying crap spammed for the rest of the game.

so the easy solution is, make sure that the ff option is in a window that prevents spam

make sure a sufficient amount of time has passed before you allow it

and don't hit the FF option if you think you have a chance

you think players too bad to see that you have a chance are the players that will carry you back to victory?

In regular Wc3 I once played a ladder random 3v3 game. At the time it wasn't unusual for people to DC or leave and someone else on the team would either micro the leaver or leave the game causing a 1v3 or eventually the entire team leaving.

One game this happened at the very start to my team. My teammate disconnected and the other teammate left. The other team was flaming me for not leaving but what did I do? I was very confident in my micro ability at the time. I just got a hero for each race and built mass footmen + archers + grunts. Rushed them and they ended up losing. I knew that it was likely they would get cocky and not take the game serious.

The problem with the FF option is it causes people to act/play differently. In general the only reason people win games when they are far behind in games is because the other team gets cocky imo. That and if they have a super turtle lineup.

Btw I have over 300 games played and 0 abandons.

This had to have happened more than once? To pad records on alt accounts, which I often just gave to friends so they could play tda games, I would play a lot of 3s and 4s rt. My strategy was exclusively to troll my teammates into leaving the game early, so I could just mass 2 unit types with their base and win the game.

its obviously a lot different story when you are the only player in the game and can easily control all units

I am not sure what you mean. I was only able to do that once, but it's not like I had a large sample size. I think I probably played around 200 ladder games in total. This was before dota was released so I don't think TDA could have existed. AOS was probably out but this was when I only played ladder Wc3 not custom games.

I do agree that you have more control when you have all the units but my point is if you were to ask everyone in that game who would win they would all bet on the other team. I would even give them the edge at that time.

Just a few hrs ago I was watching a game from two pro level players (from root) with a huge lead in the game. They got rosh three times and ended up losing with a HUGE lead. One of the pros playing potm died with aegis + rapier which was a huge blunder but they eventually got it back. The other team just turtled the entire time and the other team fell apart.

This is a game with two PRO level players losing a game with a huge lead. The other team did not even cross the river for at least over 20 minutes. I am sure a lot of teams could turn games around if they wanted to, but they just have terrible mentality.