Ya, I understand that but if people just bit the bullet groups would be formed earlier and last way longer with the dual spec feature.

It's just another way to be better at the game since the introduction of the dual talent spec system.

I hate all DPS and would hate DPSing hybrid classes less if they were useful once in a ****ing blue moon.

DPS is so abundant simply because it is a role for idiots and people who like to see big numbers.

/bias

looking to sell a rogue and mage for a few hundred..obo
both are 80 with epic flyer
mage has s1 drake, good 25m gear turning tide etc, jc/inscription
rogue has anarchy and mostly 25m gear
both have hateful/deadly to get up to around 550 resil
over 200days played on this acct, ~5000g, time to end it, pm for more details

Go figure, it's quickest to level as dps, so the classes that can tank have no experience at it unless they understood what tanking was when they first bought the game and specifically rolled the class to tank.

I've had numerous toons that could tank. I never did. I've tried tanking on a pally and druid, but I wasn't very good at it and just found it generally too hectic. Of course, I was raised a healer, that may be why.

The first part is why RB left me for other video games. He had a druid, but didn't want to be forced to heal (vanilla wow).

First of all, you can't say bad dps dks are a good reason to hate that they start at 55. How many bad dps (insert ANY class here) people have you run across? Some people.. a lot of people are just more interested in playing the game than getting good at it/understanding the best way to play their class.

At this point, the only alt I roll any more is DK, and that's just because I hate grinding levels. And that's why I don't have a single DK over 60.

It's insulting to every other class that you have to start at 1 and DKs start at 55, and I think it's why there's so many DKs period. May as well save 2-4 days of your life and just roll whatever's easy. Maybe a compromise would be that if you have an 80, you can start any class at 45. Not as high as the mighty 'hero' class, but still saving you a crapload of time and giving you enough time to learn the class.

You're right, you should always be willing to spend your time and gold to get gear, get it enchanted, and then respec whenever the randoms you're with can't find a tank/healer.

I have a severe mental illness!!

Kidding, but seriously, like, cooking? Really? It's a ****ing waste of time and money to have to mail the mats to one toon, log off, log on with him, retrieve the ****, make the food, mail it back, log off, log back in, retrieve it from the mail.

That's necessary? I'm not saying if you get an epic on one toon you should have it on all of them (well, sort of, with the rep thing), but stuff like this is just silly.

Oop, only leveled one toon to max with fishing, if I see a node I want while on another toon, gotta burn my hearth or log in the middle of nowhere, log in with the other guy, fly to wherever I think I was, then fish it. /facepalm

Derailing the current convo. Have a question I'd like some opinion on.

Basically, should I leave this guild?

Backstory: This was the first guild I was in when I started playing WoW and as such have a few decent online buddies in here, we were a casual non-raiding guild up until WOTLK and I had left for a time in late BC to raid with a raiding guild. I came back at the start of WOTLK with the understanding I would not have to have a leadership role of any sorts and would be able to just do my thing and raid.

Fast forward to about 4 months ago, a bunch of drama exploded with the guild leader and his fiance having a big tussle about WoW, I volunteered to step in as guild leader (I didn't want to, but I had no job/school at the time and didn't want to see this dudes relationship ruined due to a game). He was all for it and told me to organize our first Naxx-25's so he'd have something to back up the move with. Once I had done this, it was "after we full clear it" and then it was "after we kill malygos" etc. So basically the ensuing month was him stringing me along to do one task after another, and in the end it was clear he had no intention of passing leadership to myself.

So of course then I was stuck in the position of Raid Leader, which I honestly don't mind leading raids that much, its something I can do quite well, but as time went on, the productivity of other officers declined, leaving me having to do pretty much everything to keep us afloat. I voiced my concern and things improved for a time, but have quickly fallen back into the same old same old.

Present situation. The guild leader and all but 1 officer are barely on, logging on 5 minutes before raids and logging off 5 minutes after. Recruitment, guild bank etc are in steady decline due to no one looking after them. We have about 50% of our raid group composed of scrubs who the guild leader refuses to replace. I now work two jobs, and the stress of having to keep the guild afloat in the little spare time I have is making the game become a job for me.

What I'd like to do is up and leave for good. Apply to some more well put together raiding guilds and raid as a regular peon and not have to stress over this kind of BS anymore, I guess the main thing keeping me here is feeling guilty for leaving some of my buddies.

So, what it do?

TL;DR

Cliff notes: Guild Leader of my guild is barely ever on and leaves me having to do almost everything to keep us going, I don't have the time I used to to put towards running a guild, and the game has become a job.

Should I leave for a more well put together guild where I can just be a normal raider who doesn't have to deal with drama and bs?

One of our officers accounts was hacked or something.

Logged in this morning to find one of our guild bank tabs empty.

It was the one filled full of stacks of infinite dust/greater cosmic essence.

96 stacks.... gone.

It was about 65/35 dust/essence. 20k gold worth of enchanting mats, gone.

Hax; either replace the slackers yourself or disband the guild? Christ, it is a game, find another guild, or kick everyone that you don't like and start over?

Gimik; that sucks, but you can probably get it back from a GM.

I am thinking of starting a warrior. My mate has one in a different, inactive account (only char on that account). I read in the character transfer rules that the registered names need to be the same for character account transfering? Is there any way around this? If I can get a lvl 50 for like 30E (15 1 months pay and 15 transfer I suppose) that would be sweet.

zomg,

Find another guild.

Kinda solidified my decision to leave this afternoon. Girlfriend was supposed to be coming home for the summer, and as such my current guilds raid schedule would be good for me, but turns out she can't get work here, so I'm going to be free pretty much every night.

Time to go guild hunting.

We've recently had an officer (and MT) get their account hacked. Man, what a pain. Thankfully they weren't able to raid the gbank, but it took forever for him to get his equipment and gold refunded.

I got hacked a few months back. Was scary experience since I was auto-panicked about my poker accounts being hacked as well.

In a span of a week we had 4 guild members hacked as well. My character robbed the guildbank since I was an officer.

We ended up getting everything fully restored and I purchased one of those Blizzard authentication keys and haven't had an issue since.

I'm still pretty sure it was the result of a add-on.

What is this?

yeah, it is so weird. There are so many keyloggers in wow but they only steal your gold. I suppose they are afraid of being persecuted and know that the cops wont do **** about some wow gold. 10k$ poker monies, however, might be more interesting for the police.

No.

I'm talking about guildies or people that frequent your raids, not randoms in 5-mans.


You are dumb if you do this for a single fishing node. It isn't like there are rare fishing nodes. I could see you arguing that you see a titanium vein but even that isn't a big deal and not worth logging onto a mining character to get.

Authentication Keys are hardware that I believe plug into USB ports to verify it is actually you logging in.

Once you get it you can't login to your account without it.
Good idea on Blizzard's part.

The iphone app also works great.

Also, anyone that tried tanking pre-BC and in BC and hasn't tried in WotLK is missing out.

It is way easier to tank with every able class and I suggest you try it out.

Really? What did they change that makes it easier?

Anyone got experience with transferring chars? I hate leveling . If only buying toons wasn't so goddamn expensive.

Again, you can not, under any circumstance, transfer a character from one account to another if the names (possibly just the last name) don't match.

I can attest to this, as I have done transfers and had failed transfers multiple times.

Well at least for warriors, no more spamming shield block every GCD.

Ugh. Can you change the name an account is registered to? Guess not.

My brother stopped playing and has a 73 DK and a 60 priest though. Any of those fun to play? DKs are pretty stupid in pvp, right?

Except in cases where you misspell part of the name, no. Unless you get a really shady person on the phone, but I doubt they'd risk their job just to help out some random.

Every class now has multi-target attacks and so much burst threat that tanking any 5-man heroic is very easy with quest blues.

Once you practice your chops in heroics and learn the abilities tanking in raids isn't a huge leap at all as long as you can handle being on the front lines.

Tanking also teaches previously-tunnel-visioned DPS a great deal of awareness, something every single WoW player can use more of, but that has always been true.

I was driving home tonight after seeing the new xmen movie, and started thinking about WoW. (yes, the theatre in question allows drinking, so I 'm a bit snookered(

I was listening to a techno band that I discovered via youtube video when researching how to do the priest quest for benediction/anathema. It made me miss a time when the game really did have something special for every class, other than just 2 and 4 piece bonuses for tiered gear.

It seems like in bc they tried to keep a touch of that, with the class specific trinkets, but in LK, they just said '**** it' and made every class as close to every other class as possible.

I hate to be one of those old-timey "back when I was your age" types, but damn, the game wasn't perfect in vanilla, but they really over-compensated.

A good tanking DK needs to macro and bind all his attacks to include Rune Strike so that its used every single time it procs as its one of the, if not the DK-tank single-target threat generator, whereas a dps DK shouldn't be using it at all (nor should they be able to as it procs off getting directly hit). Yeah, you can counter they can just use the macro'd attacks for dps and have them ready for tanking but it's a waste if people don't intend to tank.

My DK is my main right now, and I did give it a go tanking with it for a little while but couldn't get a comfortable handle on it and gave up on it.

Also, personally, I know of *too many* tanks now, whereas healing continues to be the great unknown. Feral-dps/boomkin druids and Enhance/Elemental shamans drive me nuts as well, especially the feral-dps/enchancement guys. I sometimes want to scream for them to just go caster or better yet heals and they'd be able to find all the groups and raids to their heart's content. Priests are impossible to come by and as weird as it seems, I can find a plethora of pallies, but hardly any of the healing variety.

Due to recent guild drama, a group of friends and myself broke off from another guild and formed one of our own and now all of us officers (except for our beast MT/Guild Leader) are rolling up some type of healer just for "the good of the guild". We've got a fair array of healers recruited already (including a v-nice foursome of one of each class which has helped wonders in plowing through Ulduar 10) but we're basically going with the motto that you can never have enough healing.

And I'd say to tell all the ****ty low-dps DKs out there to go read the EJ forums and learn the proper spec and rotations but unfortunately that won't happen as its kids doing **** like rolling blood and spamming obliterate or going unholy so they can "have the pets" without knowing how to use them.

It's Blizz' "built-in protection", so to speak, on toon selling, and on the flip-side, the potential pratfall of buying a toon from an unknown source.

It doesn't deter people obv but if a bought toon's account were to be hacked and you don't know the registered name on the account (which you'd have to get directly from the sellers as it's blocked out in account management) then you're SOL.

If the account is your mate's and its sitting inactive you can get around things by just using it for yourself but with the recommendation of using game cards to pay for playing. The info will still be under his name, yeah, but its the best you can really do.