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MisterChipster 09-23-2009 05:45 AM

Competitive Smash Brothers
 
Anybody play a solid game from smash 64, melee, or brawl?

always looking for local games if anybody's near pennsylvania.


sharing your favorite characters and strategies here is also encouraged =D

chrusher97 09-23-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Competitive Smash Brothers
 
I main falco in melee (brawls gay) and I like to think im pretty good.

AGx19 09-23-2009 02:16 PM

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i like to crush ppl with DK from time to time

Chilltown 09-23-2009 04:53 PM

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I wish they made Melee's multiplayer into a wii ware game just so you could play it online.

I'd pay 10 bucks to play that baby forever.

Even before I learned all the advanced stuff (which took months of practice), loved Melee. My favorite game from the last generation.

Gonna go play it now. Ken Combo some unsuspecting lvl 9 Fox.

AGx19 09-23-2009 05:55 PM

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ya but brawls better


also its a real shame they botched brawls online play cause it could have been sickwitit, lags usually unplayab;e

Debo9 09-24-2009 11:27 AM

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Anyone who doesn't say original is the best is just straight up wrong. There are reasons why there are still original smash tournies played throughout the world for money, its the best game

AGx19 09-24-2009 12:12 PM

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no its not. great game for its time but melee and brawl are better. im gonna go out on a limb and say brawl>melee>orig

Debo9 09-24-2009 12:15 PM

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absolutely not, first off the characters in brawl and meelee are made so that only 5-6 characters are used by anyone who is decent, meanwhile in orig. you can use ANY character and be good, as long as you practice.


the levels are insanely dumb. Moving levels? Wow, what a way to even take more skill out of the game.

4 life, no item original > both melee/brawl combined

AGx19 09-24-2009 01:08 PM

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its on ****in n64. n64 sucks so bad.
i agree with the character thing to an exent, but i think the character issue only applies if your talking about mega-ultra competitive tournament play. agree about moving levels 100%. never play on them tho. also, DK was moderately bad on melee and orig, and was upgraded a decent bit on brawl, so thats another reason why its better

Chilltown 09-24-2009 05:29 PM

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I'm sticking with Melee>>>N64>Brawl for multiplayer purposes. The speed of Melee remains unmatched. You could literally train every day for a year and still get owned by people with freakish gaming skills. Took me like a month to be able to wavedash across a map somewhat effectively. Brawl does lack technical requirements but it even the playing field so smart strategists fight more effectively than before.

I get the "in melee there's only 6 competitive characters argument" but so? Play those 6 characters and problem solved! Are you mad that Mewtwo sucks?

Debo9 09-24-2009 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilltown (Post 13351668)
I'm sticking with Melee>>>N64>Brawl for multiplayer purposes. The speed of Melee remains unmatched. You could literally train every day for a year and still get owned by people with freakish gaming skills. Took me like a month to be able to wavedash across a map somewhat effectively. Brawl does lack technical requirements but it even the playing field so smart strategists fight more effectively than before.

I get the "in melee there's only 6 competitive characters argument" but so? Play those 6 characters and problem solved! Are you mad that Mewtwo sucks?

The level of skill difference in original >>>> Melee. Go youtube isea if you don't believe me, dude is an absolute freak

aarono2690 09-24-2009 08:12 PM

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I checked this thread out because I DVRed an episode of True Life where it talks about professional gaming, and one of the gamers played Smash for a living.

VarianceMinefield 09-25-2009 12:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilltown (Post 13351668)
I'm sticking with Melee>>>N64>Brawl for multiplayer purposes. The speed of Melee remains unmatched. You could literally train every day for a year and still get owned by people with freakish gaming skills. Took me like a month to be able to wavedash across a map somewhat effectively. Brawl does lack technical requirements but it even the playing field so smart strategists fight more effectively than before.

I get the "in melee there's only 6 competitive characters argument" but so? Play those 6 characters and problem solved! Are you mad that Mewtwo sucks?

qft

Chilltown 09-25-2009 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Debo9 (Post 13355246)
The level of skill difference in original >>>> Melee. Go youtube isea if you don't believe me, dude is an absolute freak

I know who Isai is, and his Falcon looks much more impressive from a technical standpoint than any of his 64 dudes.

69sofine 09-25-2009 01:22 AM

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N64: DK-throw off ledge then jump over them and down A or over A for instant kill imo

Aceium 09-25-2009 11:03 AM

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I wasn't a big fan of Melee or Brawl. I thought that the N64 one was perfect, even though it had less characters. I was very good with Kirby and Yoshi, pretty good with Pikachu and Mario, and decent enough with DK and Captain Falcon.

One of our friends was nigh unbeatable when he used Jigglypuff. No one could touch him. Even after playing against him for hours, it was hard to get his routine down enough to come up with a good counter strategy. Generally against him I just kept my distance until he had to hit the ground and tried to be the perfect distance away to land a good forward smash attack. He was also very very good with Samus, but nothing like Jigglypuff.

jah7_fsu1 09-25-2009 11:17 AM

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Brawl was nowhere near as good as I thought it would be. Granted I don't own a Wii, but I have put in probably 15 hours at a friends house. Huge dissapointment, and horrid multiplayer.

Dazarath 09-25-2009 12:01 PM

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Anyone saying Brawl is the best must have missed that the title says "Competitive Smash Brothers". There's no way that failure of a game is anywhere close to the other two in terms of tournament-worthiness.

Aceium 09-25-2009 12:06 PM

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Brawl made things way too complicated. There was always too much going on and it really took away from the characters just beating each other up, imo. Melee had a little bit of this, but I thought they still did a good enough job of making it replayable.

Debo9 09-25-2009 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilltown (Post 13360072)
I know who Isai is, and his Falcon looks much more impressive from a technical standpoint than any of his 64 dudes.

Melee is easy in the fact that the combos are combos, and they are set. There are few combos to master, and you rarely interchange.

In original, you can constantly change combos within combos. Saying his Falcon is more technical then his N64 pikachu is lolworthy, his pikachu is simply unbeatable. He does combos that you couldnt even imagine.

Chilltown 09-25-2009 06:21 PM

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In Brawl, you can't even combo. You attack, they fall back, and everything resets to neutral.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debo9 (Post 13368593)
Melee is easy in the fact that the combos are combos, and they are set. There are few combos to master, and you rarely interchange.

In original, you can constantly change combos within combos. Saying his Falcon is more technical then his N64 pikachu is lolworthy, his pikachu is simply unbeatable. He does combos that you couldnt even imagine.

Yes Isai did some sick stuff on the N64 but if the game is more technically demanding then Isai would have been the best player in Melee too, but he wasn't....he was only...a top ten player lol. He played pure freak in the N64 game, no doubt. But everything about Melee was faster. They ran faster, fell to the ground significantly faster, faster moves, etc.

Meekus 12-21-2011 09:45 AM

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I live in philadelphia area, and go to school near pittsburgh. we should organize something for 2p2ers...ssb is easily one of the greatest games in existence. I have brawl here in philly and melee at school.

Priptonite 12-21-2011 03:14 PM

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Brawl was such a disappointment from a competitive standpoint :(
I literally bought a Wii just for Brawl, too.

Thamel18 12-24-2011 01:49 AM

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I played the original and rocked my brothers as Ness (D-air is sicknasty against people who don't get it), missed out on melee, and really enjoy brawl for all its goodness. Though he's a pretty poor character, I enjoy playing Lucas in brawl, often subbing in people like Diddy Kong, snake, and toon link in for the fun of things (would agree snake is prob the best among them due to his interesting abilities / style and good tilt attacks). Luckily I don't have to deal with super awesome brawl players otherwise I'd lose favor of most of my characters real quick.

mutigers 12-24-2011 03:48 AM

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me and my roomates literally play original smash an hour or so a day on average for like 3 years...i always stick with kirby and pikachu but it really depends on how many humans you are playing with. We usualy get all 4 so i have no problem but if im going one on one i cant really play kirby bc hes too slow. but with 4 ppl hes def my favorite. That being said I'm not the best player and one guy dominates with ness and other guy is pretty good with DK or fox if its one on one...the "gap" move is definitely key i dont know why we call it that but its the down A in the space where it just shoots them down...kirby's is pretty tough afaik the only thing that overrides his twinkletoes is captain falcon's up B cuz he grabs you but falcon in general sucks

DK's pretty much impossible to defend too with all that reach

literally never ever get tired of this game though it has to be the ultimate stoner game of all time


I think Ness is definitely the most complicated to play with but the most powerful in the right hands...i just cannot get that B up move to ever connect and get him back on the map though..im much more comfortable edge guarding with kirby and his 5 jumps


pikachu is kind of unfun but i play with him alot because his grab is so freaking quick and the power A move has alot of reach for when you throw them to side of map and they have to land close to edge...and his A move overrides tons of other moves in ties


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