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04-17-2007, 07:40 AM   #46
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Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=)

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 It is only useful for helping to calculate your luck odds
"luck odds" = best pokah term EVAH

04-17-2007, 11:13 AM   #47
journeyman

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Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=)

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 hey youngdro. im going to trace your ip address and come over. by tomorrow you and your brothers bodies will be at the bottom of a river..
Cool.
I was jk bro. youve put some thought into your playing system and I respect that.

 04-17-2007, 01:24 PM #48 old hand   Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The \'Shoe Posts: 1,312 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) YD, I think in refining your system that possibly using logarithmics will help. Also, I think there should be bonus. You know how you're saying the closer the cards, the more luck? Well, when you have 99, you can't get any closer than that, right? That should get extra points. For example, anything that is as close together as being a pair should get 50 extra points. So, obviously, AA would get 246 while 22 would get 54, yet 32 would get 6 points. 72 would get 14 points, however, I think one gappers should get a bonus of 5, so 32 would get 11 points, and cards more than 3 gaps should have 5 points taken away (unless they're a suited King) so 72 would be 9 points, and 62 would be 7 points. But, this doesn't take into account using logarithms, and... You'd have to get pokertracker or someone to write a program using all of your math, and your luck odds, and just combine them and use an overlay because at one point it might be difficult figuring out all the math involved for each of your hands. Plus, you could also take this further, and attach points to the flop PLUS your hand, and on and on. If anyone is taking this seriously, I apologize in advance. Well, great post, and keep up the good work. Someday, someone will understand I'm sure. You're probably going to win Stars Sunday Million at one point, and outside of few of the recent winners, I think that most on here would agree that you could win it.
 04-17-2007, 02:52 PM #49 stranger   Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MS, USA Posts: 3 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) I see why your broke and need donations!
 04-18-2007, 02:21 AM #50 veteran   Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,139 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) It takes ingenuity to come up with something as retarded as this.
04-18-2007, 07:58 PM   #51
Carpal \'Tunnel

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Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=)

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 If you or anyone has any doubts that I'm broke as a joke, I can provide screenshots of my Poker Stars cashier as proof.
lol, I'm pretty sure this is the one thing everybody believes.

"Synchronicity" is a great word though. I no longer have suited connectors, I have suited and synchronized cards.

 04-19-2007, 09:57 AM #52 enthusiast   Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 57 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) Did your mother have any kids that lived? You outta pay me a \$1 for reading. This thread is a deliberate joke and is meant to be fake. Last night I watched Daivid on the WPT while you where playing your \$1 big bet games with your bro.....
 04-19-2007, 03:31 PM #53 stranger   Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) Sklansky's rankings are actually wrong (mathematically), but not by much. Here are the correct rankings: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/People/mummert/poker/ This was a study done by a professor of computer science at Carnegie Mellon University.
 04-19-2007, 03:45 PM #54 adept   Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 776 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) The legendary Todd Mummert! Bless him. irc poker was the shihit.
 04-19-2007, 09:10 PM #55 adept   Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 821 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) vnh
04-19-2007, 09:40 PM   #56
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 You are brainwashed by Sklansky and the sheep that treat his books like the Bible and his rankings like the ten commanments!
Thank-you. I will now seek help to end this affliction.

MM
You're welcome.
\$1 to my Poker Stars account and I'll refer you to my father's girlfriend, who is an accomplished shrink with a PhD.
Well at least you got a reply from Mason himself. Not sure if it's worth more or less than \$1 tho. I'll transfer you \$1 if you tell me exactly what you were smoking...
Take a guess
Hy-DRO-ponic marijuana. =)

You are correct in your assumption that I was high when this thread was written. *clap*

04-19-2007, 09:42 PM   #57
newbie

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 OP is correct. Extrapolating from his post, a hand like 99 (YD number 81) should be quite an underdog to a hand like 9A (YD number 117). What is interesting is that when I test this hypothesis by running "hot and cold" simulations on PokerStove or cardplayer.com, the simulator incorrectly assigns 99 the greater win probability (by a healthy margin, too: PS thinks pocket 9's are about a 7-to-3 favorite over A9). In addition to its implications for what Sklansky might term "reverse domination" situations (o! the irony!), OP's system correctly implies that suited hands offer no advantages over offsuit hands, which should be intuitively obvious to all of you. (Clearly, it is just as good to have two chancese to make a four card flush as it is to have only one chance at a three-carder. (3-1=2; but 4-2=2 as well. Q.E.D.)) These examples support OP's assertion that much current poker thinking is incorrect: Sklansky has not only inadvertantly tricked many of the readers of these forums; indeed, his corrupting influence appears to have spread even to those computer programmers who design poker software. To Y0ungdr0: Thank you very much for your help! If you do manage to collect some donations, please let me know. I certainly believe your work deserves compensation. Personally, I would most like to present my money to you "over the table", ideally by going all-in preflop in one or two heads-up NL situations your system has identified. My thought is, we can reveal our hands preflop, and in order to assure that you receive your due, I will take the worst of it in any of the mismatch situations that you've discovered, EG by playing A6 against your K7. I really like this, because my donations will be in direct proportion to the value of your thoughts (especially over the course of the many hands I hope we can get in, so as to further my learning). Given the strength of your ideas and your great generosity in sharing them, I feel like no matter how much I end up eventually donating, I'll be getting one heck of a bargain! I'll look you up next time I'm on PS. Thanks again for your terrific thoughts! Warm regards, Jogger
Your sarcasm is so clever and subtle.
Thank you for the entertaining post and the backhanded compliments.

04-19-2007, 09:48 PM   #58
newbie

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 I see why your broke and need donations!
I no longer need donations, thank you. =)

I took my freeroll winnings and made a decent bankroll for the micro-stakes. =)

I'm doing quite well. The reason I was "broke" was because I was not able to deposit in the first place, doofus. Try reading thoroughly before posting ignorantly. Thank you!

 04-20-2007, 01:25 PM #59 stranger   Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) Let's some of the math your basing your theory on
 04-05-2012, 10:28 PM #60 adept   Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,059 Re: Sklansky Hand Rankings Destroyed! >=) ROFL I was Googling the Carnegie Mellon hand rankings and found this gem. How has this not been bumped/5starred??

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