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Old 07-13-2012, 06:53 PM   #1
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Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

Villain has 3bet of 14% so I elected to 4bet.. He then flats..


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $25.00
SB: $30.16
BB: $36.29
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.00
Hero (CO): $77.33

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN raises to $2.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, BTN calls $3.00

Flop: ($10.35, 2 players) 3 A 2

What do you think is the best play here?
a) bet/call
b) shove
c) check/shove
c2) bet/shove turn if he checks back flop
c3) bet turn if he checks back flop
c4) shove turn if he checks back flop
c5) check again on turn
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:57 PM   #2
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

Bet and call off.
You have a gs + a fd
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:59 PM   #3
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

I think betting like $3.50 here is good and then it sets up for a close to PSB shove on the turn. we have a ton of outs

how many hands is this sample?
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

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I think betting like $3.50 here is good
I dont like it id bet like $7 and continue my line.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:07 PM   #5
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

I actually chose to just overbet shove here.. Obv its the best flop for my hand but is overbet shoving better than betting normally? Cuz I actually want him to fold..
Maybe he folds KK,QQ when I bet so big, I dont want him to find a call wit thsoe hadns
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:09 PM   #6
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

if hes not hand reading then overbetting shoving is fine, if he is, its not like you ever play AA/AK like that since you have all his pre flop calling range crushed.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:10 PM   #7
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

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I think betting like $3.50 here is good and then it sets up for a close to PSB shove on the turn. we have a ton of outs

how many hands is this sample?
imo this is by far the best line against anyone remotely competent from a balance perspective alone. You can play your entire range like this on the flop.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:16 PM   #8
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

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I actually chose to just overbet shove here.. Obv its the best flop for my hand but is overbet shoving better than betting normally? Cuz I actually want him to fold..
It looks more bluffy and could get hero called by those. But nothing really changes the way this hand plays postflop getting called by QQ is ok you have the K as outs then also.

Id of just bet called though tbh and continued with a believable line.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:39 AM   #9
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Re: Zoom25 : K5s in 4bet pot

^basically that. No matter what we do he won't fold Ax. bet flop - jam turn might get him off JJ-QQ etc but it's not necessarily a big part of his range and we do good against it anyway

i'd b/c ~4
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