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Old 02-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #1
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Weird spot with 10 10

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BB: $21.64
UTG: $20.53
MP: $18.07
CO: $20.16
Hero (BTN): $27.83
SB: $21.59

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with T T
1 fold, MP raises to $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.70, SB raises to $3.20, BB calls $3, MP calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($12.80) 3 5 J (4 players)
SB bets $7.00, BB folds, MP folds, Hero folds
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

Wrong forum, but you shouldn't be calling first in with this hand, need to reraise, especially on the button.

My guess is you are nowhere near aggressive enough to win at these stakes.

What hands do you threebet? Only QQ, KK, AA?
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:03 PM   #3
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Wrong forum, but you shouldn't be calling first in with this hand, need to reraise, especially on the button.

My guess is you are nowhere near aggressive enough to win at these stakes.

What hands do you threebet? Only QQ, KK, AA?
No i actually usually 3bet from the BU with 1010+, aqs+, and will mix in some sc type hands
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:42 AM   #4
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

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Wrong forum, but you shouldn't be calling first in with this hand, need to reraise, especially on the button.

My guess is you are nowhere near aggressive enough to win at these stakes.

What hands do you threebet? Only QQ, KK, AA?
I prefer a 3bet with only QQ+, AKs with the intention of playing for stacks preflop if I get 4bet by the original raiser. Mix in a large number of suited connectors to polarize your range, particularly since you are in position. Flat with TT, JJ, and AKo b/c you aren't looking to get all in with those hands when you're this deep, although I'd plan to get all in with those 3 hands if one of the blinds decides to squeeze. If the OR is a known LAG, then sure you can extend your range to TT+, AQs+, AKo, but that's player specific imo.

But I'm primarily a LHE player so feel free to ignore me completely...I won't be offended.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:04 AM   #5
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My guess is you are nowhere near aggressive enough to win at these stakes.
This critique is straight garbage.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:02 AM   #6
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

Im not a no limit guy but imo u need to 3 brt pf cause mp stack isnt even 100 bb
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #7
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

What's villains PFR, specifically from MP if you have it. It could be a no brainier 3 bet or a no brainier flat call if he's loose or tight enough. SB's 3 bet is important too once you've flatted.
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:50 PM   #8
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Im not a no limit guy but imo u need to 3 brt pf cause mp stack isnt even 100 bb
What kinds of hands do you expect your opponent to get all in with? I don't think a normal open raiser is looking to get all in with less than JJ, AKs, AKo. TT is a whopping 2:1 dog against that range.

You don't want to 3bet with TT and then get 4bet. It puts you in a very tough spot because there is now a good deal of money in the pot. I mean, honestly, you probably still fold TT to a 4bet, but that's a big waste. In order to want an all in with TT, you need a player who either 4bets a lot of air or who has an extremely wide 4bet value range. Players just don't stack off with hands like 88 or AQo with 100 BB stacks. And if they don't, then you can't plan to get all in with TT.

I've seen a lot of the best players use a strategy where they 4bet small with a wider range. That is theoretically countered by 5betting light. Maybe against a player using that strategy, there might be reason to take a hand like TT and get all in as a 5bet. You'll be down during the all-ins but pick up enough medium sized pots to compensate. But you need a very confident read, and I'm not sure exactly how much air the opponent needs to have. Either way, that's a decision that needs to be made before you 3bet in the first place.

Of course, there's also the issue of balance. If you're 3betting hands like TT, then you're almost never going to defend against a squeeze because your range will be too weak.

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Old 02-03-2012, 05:05 PM   #9
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

This is what I get for answering seriously.

I should have just put 'min-reraise preflop' and this would have been moved yesterday.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:57 PM   #10
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

squeeeeeze that orange
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:37 AM   #11
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Re: Weird spot with 10 10

Maybe it's just me, but without ANY stats, reads, thought process, without even a question at all, that's an "okay, you posted a hand.. so?"-Thread.

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