That's fair enough, I do agree that I'm basically letting villain play perfectly with regards to not getting max value off his SDV hands. That would be my only real concern for checking turn and ceding control of the pot, otherwise I think it's okay if I'm up against a better hand purely because I'd probably call it off on turn if he raises with my combined equity (so I get owned by his better hands less, but also own his worse hands less).

Are you block betting turn, or putting out a normal-sized bet?

And if we bet normal and we get called and river totally blanks out, we're c/f'ing?

I'm sure that his better hands are actually few and far between given that he won't flat TT/JJ vs a minraise that often, and we're mainly worried most about on the turn is QJ or possibly a slowplayed QT.

I would shove the river myself if he flats turn again, cause his range is somewhat weighted less towards hands that beat us seeing as they'll shove turn/raise flop themselves a decent % of the time.

Perhaps I'm stacking off too light in these spots vs reg fishes though. I just assume that he would never fold KQ or AQ.

I'm b/c like $24 on the turn

Too thin?

Ongame Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em

BTN: $20.85 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 9, AF: 1.0, Hands: 37
Hero (SB): $40.08 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 4.6, Hands: 147135
BB: $20.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 93
UTG: $49.19 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 3.0, Hands: 1544
CO: $17.17 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 1.7, Hands: 209

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is SB with A Q
UTG raises to $0.80, CO calls $0.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.70, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.60) 9 2 Q (3 players)
Hero bets $2.00, UTG folds, CO calls $2

Turn: ($6.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.00, CO calls $4

River: ($14.60) J (2 players)
Hero bets $33.28, CO calls $10.37 all in

Is he snippity snappity Qx everytime when you jam? If so, not thin.
If he's folding some combos of Qx, then it's going to be thin and c/f > shoving.

I dunno about his exact calling range but I just noticed his WTSD is only 26. Is that any helpfull over this sample?

And my only alternative is to c/f?

What other options are there with a <psb behind?
I think it means he's prob not a huge station given the WTSD% and considering you actually have 200 hands on him (you never see most busto fish again).
I'd c/f...

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Ongame Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

UTG: $12.15 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 4.7, Hands: 69
Hero (CO): $25.35 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 4.6, Hands: 148570
BTN: $36.45 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3.1, Hands: 1731
SB: $41.58 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 2.3, Hands: 132
BB: $22.84 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 1.1, Hands: 109

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is CO with T T
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.30) 9 8 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.30) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $0.20

Should have bet slightly bigger otf, but what to do ott? Havent seen him donking like this before, I have seen him donk big with air otf though.

2 options raise him slightly out of odds to hit his FD or shove. I shove.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($38)
BB ($18.16)
Hero ($29.85)
UTG+1 ($31.44)
CO ($32.65)
BTN ($9.90)

Dealt to Hero K K

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.50, fold, Hero raises to $6.50, SB calls $4

FLOP ($13.25) 6 A T

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($13.25) 6 A T 3

SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

RIVER ($22.25) 6 A T 3 9

SB bets $19, Hero folds

SB wins $21.18

do you fold this turn vs fish or is this standard?

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SB ($10)
BB ($12.49)
UTG ($7.91)
Hero ($10)
BTN ($6.64)

Dealt to Hero A A

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.35

FLOP ($1.05) 6 K 3

UTG checks, Hero bets $0.80, UTG calls $0.80

TURN ($2.65) 6 K 3 5

UTG checks, Hero bets $2.40, UTG raises to $4.80, Hero raises to $8.75 (AI), UTG calls $1.86 (AI)

RIVER ($15.97) 6 K 3 5 9

UTG shows Q 8
(Pre 17%, Flop 31.0%, Turn 84.1%)

Hero shows A A
(Pre 83%, Flop 69.0%, Turn 15.9%)

UTG wins $14.91

oops wrong thread

No stats but reads are that neither SB or MP are very good players. MP has been limp calling a ton. I was so confused by MP's line in this hand, no idea what he could have had.

SB donking made me completely rule out all sets. I give him a pretty marginal hand range. Once I raise flop I really think most made hands 4bet AI and since both called. I think I have the best hand.

Is this shove good or terrible? J is obviously a horrible card but I figured I can't fold and I want to charge any draws which I think is in both of their ranges a lot.

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

MP: $3.03
Hero (CO): $2.00
BTN: $2.03
SB: $3.07
BB: $1.47
UTG: $1.15

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A Q

fold, MP calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09, fold, SB calls $0.08, BB calls $0.07, MP calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.36, 4 players) Q T 2
SB bets $0.20, fold, MP calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, SB calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.46, 3 players) J
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.21 and is all-in, SB calls $1.21, fold

River: ($4.88, 2 players) T

rush poker

unknown


UTG: $2.07
MP: $5.17
CO: $20.88
BTN: $2.93
SB: $2.26
Hero (BB): $7.39

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A J
4 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.40) T T J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.90) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.58, SB calls $0.58

River: ($2.06) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $1.23 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Villain runs at 19/14 over 1K hands. He is a complete nit/breakeven reg. UTG runs at 56/18 over 48 hands and likes clicking the pot button. Could have 22 so can't fold??

IPoker Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $21.85
UTG: $27.58
Hero (CO): $20.77
BTN: $22.50
SB: $5.41

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($2.00) 2 5 T (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.00, Hero calls $2, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $2

Turn: ($8.00) 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.20, Hero raises to $5.60, BB raises to $19.45, UTG folds, Hero calls $12.77 all in

River: ($44.94) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

std

Q turn sucks but I think shoving is fine.
He's not ever folding 9x, and now he won't fold 8T/8J either I think. Still calling his flushdraws obv.

You can't b/f for a minraise and I doubt we're folding to a $2 bet on the river. Just ship it.

Thin but prob okay at 2nl

I guess it's a fold cause of the actual line, since many fish take this line with their flushes. Kind of meh spot. Given overlay, this could be a call cause 89/KQ missed, and I think if there was a river he'd bluff those on, it would be this one.


This is fine

My turn sizing kind of sucks, but I get into these spots with ~psb left all the time when all the draws get there and im always a bit confused on what to do against unknown fish.

b/f really small, c/f or bet(/call) big?

Ongame Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

Hero (UTG): $25.29 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 4.6, Hands: 150170
CO: $12.89 - VPIP: 74, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 19
BTN: $27.64 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 297
SB: $19.80 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 128
BB: $22.93 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 27, 3B: 14, AF: 4.1, Hands: 613

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is UTG with A T
Hero raises to $0.80, CO calls $0.80, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.90) A 6 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.40) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50

River: ($9.40) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7.10, Hero folds

Final Pot: $9.40
CO wins $7.10
(Rake: $0.47)



This too weak? Villain is passive and c/r'd 1 out of 12 times. Can I fold the flop here?

Ongame Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players

Hero (BTN): $20.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 4.6, Hands: 150170
SB: $27.53 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 297
BB: $17.63 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 128
CO: $43.15 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 27, 3B: 14, AF: 4.1, Hands: 613

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with Q T
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) T A Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($7.50) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $5.60, Hero folds

2nd barrel with my 12 outs vs 2 unknowns or ok like played?

Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $21.05
SB: $22.14
BB: $14.70
UTG: $24.06
MP: $11.88
CO: $19.58

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero has J T

fold, MP calls $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, BB calls $0.80, MP calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.10, 3 players) 3 9 K
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00, MP calls $2.00

Turn: ($9.10, 3 players) 4
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.10, 3 players) 9
BB checks, MP bets $4.44, fold, fold

MP wins $8.65

Seems fine to me.

Ongame Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players

Hero (BTN): $19.60 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 4.6, Hands: 150170
SB: $12.61 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 4.0, Hands: 50
BB: $20.01 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 190
CO: $21.00 - VPIP: 70, PFR: 30, 3B: 40, AF: 0.5, Hands: 10

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with Q Q
CO calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, SB calls $0.70, BB raises to $3.40, CO calls $3.20, Hero raises to $19.60, 1 fold, BB raises to $20.01, CO calls $16.61

Flop: ($60.42) 2 4 3 (3 players)

Turn: ($60.42) A (3 players)

River: ($60.42) 9 (3 players)

Spew? I saw all that money in pot and thought something along the lines of "**** it"

Im getting it in there always.

yeah def shoving

IPoker Network $4.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 max

SB is reg, so i guess tajt. Setming maybe all pockets, range about 4% maybe, dont know if he plays AK-AQ like this.

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is CO with J K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, 1 fold, SB calls $0.12, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.32) 4 Q K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.26, SB calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.84) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Should have net here, b/f. Or maybe just give up because od the narrow range, its just AQ that we beat if he plays AQ like this but i dont htink so, so in another word we are dead here.

B/f 3/4pot, you're leveling yourself if you think there isn't value to be had vs a reg there.