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| Micro Stakes PL/NL Discussions regarding micro stakes pot and no-limit hold'em (25c-50c and below) |
01-01-2011, 08:09 PM
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#16
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: je pense, donk je suis.
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
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Originally Posted by Kletterer
When yuo raise did you have a feeling that you won't flop anything and this 94/69 will push you out of the pot. Or did you have a feeling that you knew exacty how 94/69 would play his draws, top pair and air?
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The former for sure. I still don't have much confidence in my game, probably with good reason too. But just nitting up might be less -EV but won't solve the problem so I think just putting myself in a difficult spot is alright. After all micros isn't about maximising profit but learning from mistakes and moving forward.
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01-01-2011, 08:10 PM
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#17
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: je pense, donk je suis.
Posts: 1,837
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
^ preflop defo not standard! Rest of the hand seems to be though.
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01-01-2011, 08:26 PM
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#18
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 5,755
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Guy is 56/2 fish, been -min3betting weird hands, BTN is 24/1 fish, river shove too thin?
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.20(BB) On Game
SB ($26.81)
BB ($24.10)
Hero ($20)
CO ($81.23)
BTN ($51.95)
Dealt to Hero Q  Q
Hero raises to $0.80, fold, BTN calls $0.80, SB calls $0.70, BB raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $4, BTN calls $3.20, fold, BB calls $2.60
FLOP ($12.80) K  7  8
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
TURN ($12.80) K  7  8  3
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BTN folds, BB calls $6
RIVER ($24.80) K  7  8  3  T
BB checks, Hero bets $10 (AI), BB folds
Hero shows Q  Q
Hero wins $23.56
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01-01-2011, 08:28 PM
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#19
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: bang bang bang
Posts: 1,905
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoagie
Villain is 14/11/7
SB is 21/18/6
Cereus Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (BB): $126.43
UTG: $49.91
CO: $72.55
BTN: $71.60
SB: $6.15
SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 6  9
fold, CO raises to $1.75, fold, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $3.00, CO calls $1.25, SB calls $1.25
Flop: ($9.00, 3 players) J  8  9
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: ($9.00, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $4.00, fold, Hero calls $4.00
River: ($17.00, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets $17.00, Hero calls $17.00
STD?
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nh
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01-01-2011, 08:31 PM
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#20
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: bang bang bang
Posts: 1,905
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
river shove too thin?
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i think it's fine. nh
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01-01-2011, 10:07 PM
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#21
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 665
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoagie
Villain is 14/11/7
SB is 21/18/6
Cereus Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (BB): $126.43
UTG: $49.91
CO: $72.55
BTN: $71.60
SB: $6.15
SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 6  9
fold, CO raises to $1.75, fold, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $3.00, CO calls $1.25, SB calls $1.25
Flop: ($9.00, 3 players) J  8  9
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: ($9.00, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $4.00, fold, Hero calls $4.00
River: ($17.00, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets $17.00, Hero calls $17.00
STD?
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three pairs
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01-01-2011, 10:14 PM
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#22
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 5,755
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoagie
Villain is 14/11/7
SB is 21/18/6
Cereus Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (BB): $126.43
UTG: $49.91
CO: $72.55
BTN: $71.60
SB: $6.15
SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 6  9
fold, CO raises to $1.75, fold, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $3.00, CO calls $1.25, SB calls $1.25
Flop: ($9.00, 3 players) J  8  9
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: ($9.00, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $4.00, fold, Hero calls $4.00
River: ($17.00, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets $17.00, Hero calls $17.00
STD?
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No, seems pretty much misplayed everywhere...  Pretty sure its a level but im just going to pretend it isnt...
you min3bet 96s with a 12bb stack in the SB, why?
And when a tight player like that pots the river he usually has trip jacks.
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01-01-2011, 11:53 PM
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#23
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,764
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
villain is 18/14/3.1 over 900 hands, we have an aggro dynamic. His 3bet vs. BTN is 12% (43 opportunities), normal 3bet is 4.7%.
It felt like when he checks back that flop he has QQ or KK because I think he bets his entire bluff and TPTK/TPGK range here. But trying to get rid of the MUBS because there's just so few combos of QQ. I think a call is standard, but does anyone ship?
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
MP: $37.00
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $101.40
SB: $68.30
BB: $119.70
UTG: $99.25
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J  K
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $5.50, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $4
Flop: ($11.25) A  3  3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($11.25) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: ($11.25) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $14
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01-02-2011, 12:18 AM
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Just Plain Nasty
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: #Heel
Posts: 8,886
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Thoughts vs 17/12 reg?
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($18.45)
BB ($17.12)
UTG ($98.60)
UTG+1 ($7.70)
Hero ($194)
BTN ($83.68)
Dealt to Hero K  A
fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, BTN raises to $6.50, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to $7.70 (AI), Hero calls $5.45, BTN calls $1.20
FLOP ($23.85) 2  8  7
Hero checks, BTN bets $14.42, Hero raises to $176,
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01-02-2011, 12:24 AM
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#25
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 5,755
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
17/12 players are usually pretty bad, dont think he can fold an overpair, esp since you look kinda like a fd/combodraw there (not that calling with kings should be proffitable against you in that spot).
I'd like it more with 9dTd or a set.
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01-02-2011, 12:25 AM
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#26
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Amsterdam
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOLdonkaments.
blablabla
*Handhistory
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Seems standard given reads.
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01-02-2011, 12:27 AM
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#27
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Just Plain Nasty
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: #Heel
Posts: 8,886
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
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I'd like it more with 9dTd or a set.
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All you've said here is we should have more equity when going all in. Of course it would be better with a set or T9dd because they are awesome hands.
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01-02-2011, 12:30 AM
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#28
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,764
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Was the betting capped pre when UTG shoved? As in, could you only call or was there an option to raise? If there was only an option to call, pre is fine, but if you could raise, I just fold when UTG ships because BTN is probably shipping his stack in after cold 4betting.
Same with the flop. If villain couldn't ship pre then I'd probably c/c flop because his range is still strong and you have no fold equity prob. If villain could ship pre, but decided to flat then c/shove is cool.
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01-02-2011, 12:31 AM
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#29
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Drunk on power and whiskey
Posts: 3,787
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
No, seems pretty much misplayed everywhere...  Pretty sure its a level but im just going to pretend it isnt...
you min3bet 96s with a 12bb stack in the SB, why?
And when a tight player like that pots the river he usually has trip jacks.
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I have been experimenting with min 3 betting marginal hands with nits in the hand. I feel like it gives me an advantage when I am oop because I am in control of the hand. Also it changes the spr to where I can profitably bluff lots of flops and turns.
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01-02-2011, 12:40 AM
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#30
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Drunk on power and whiskey
Posts: 3,787
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Re: ***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***
Thing is we have like insane odds against the entirety of his range, on top of this we do have fold equity imo. I am basically never calling this jam with QQ KK AA and If villain cant fold those hands we are still doing ok. He might not be able to fold those hands but he SHOULD fold them.
@lol donakments original 3 bettor could not raise.
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