^Yeah, super nitty.
Tptk is a fist pump at 2nl especially when they're not full stacked

nothing wrong with your call in the SB.

30/20/2AF 250 hands

Notes:
cr 3x on T29ss with Q9ss
aggro w draws



Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Absolute
SB ($20.59)
Hero ($69.75)
UTG ($41.75)
CO ($100)
BTN ($59.42)

Dealt to Hero J A

fold, CO raises to $1.75, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.25

FLOP ($3.75) 7 9 J

Hero bets $3, CO calls $3

TURN ($9.75) 7 9 J 4

Hero bets $6, CO calls $6

RIVER ($21.75) 7 9 J 4 Q

Hero bets $14, CO raises to $89.29 (AI), Hero folds

CO wins $47.30

folding is fine but bet turn bigger and bet river smaller

or c/c is okay too if he's really aggro otr and think he can turn worse pairs into a bluff or vbet Jx

are you Vbetting or bluffing river?
if he's aggro with draws i prefer c/c turn and c/c river when draws miss

I like your donking line, but I'd be c/f'ing river.

Villian play 18/18 (VPIP/PFR) on only 11 hands

ch back turn fine because i wanne see showdown, don't get bluffed of my hand, and because there are very frew draws i miss value from?
call river fine too i guues?

Party Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1120745
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $25.35
SB: $25.10
BB: $36.18
Hero (UTG): $25.00
MP: $31.26
CO: $6.53

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.25) J 4 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.42, SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.08

Turn: ($9.25) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.25) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $5.00, Hero calls $5

Final Pot: $19.25
SB shows Q A
Hero shows A A
Hero wins $18.29
(Rake: $0.96)

There's no need for villain to take the double check raise line to get stacks in with 2pr+.
I can see the results obv but when they check the turn looks like a flop bluff that's gonna fold or a semibluff or funky Jack that's gonna call.
Bet / fold turn and shove river if flatted?

Have this guy running 33/17 over fairly small sample, haven't seen anything out of line so far...Anyone calling river?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($45.44)
BB ($153)
UTG ($26.02)
UTG+1 ($62.50)
Hero ($53)
BTN ($61.95)

Dealt to Hero J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB calls $1.25, fold

FLOP ($3.50) 6 2 9

SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

TURN ($7.50) 6 2 9 J

SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

RIVER ($17.50) 6 2 9 J 6

SB bets $17.50, Hero folds

SB wins $16.65

Seems fine.

River bet is kinda thin. I definitely prefer c/c river given your read of villain trying to pull trifectas everywhere.

This is fine with reads

I'd be pretty hard pressed to fold considering he's repping like, fullhouses and backdoor flushes (which are hard to make considering he can't have top pair or 2nd pair & flushdraw on the turn) and all of the gutshots missed

I dunno, everytime I face the wonderfull art of the c/c, donk, pot line I am toast.

spraggy - he's repping a narrow range and the river bet looks super polarized so i can see the temptation to snap it off for sure. But the thing that worries me is the turn donk, which looks like straight up value imo -- i don't ever see people check-calling the flop and the donking the turn big unless they have a very big hand and don't want to let the turn check around and miss a street of value...

Pretty much the only time i'd be taking this line as a bluff if I'm in villain's position is when i'm holding 78s, and there are even fewer (non-club) combos of that in his range than value hands...

I have seen a lot turn donks be for "protecting" their hand. On the turn donk I would add A-9, and J-(9<->K) to his range. The river I would drop the A9 from his range. Same boat as FD, I would also be hard pressed to fold the river, I would close my eyes and call.

This hand that happened today is similar except he donked/called the flop.

MP: $32.07
CO: $26.60
Hero (BTN): $42.11
SB: $26.71
BB: $24.75
UTG: $24.65

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) J 5 8
SB bets $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $3.00, SB calls $2.25

Turn: ($8.25, 2 players) 4
SB bets $4.25, Hero raises to $38.36 and is all-in, SB calls $18.71 and is all-in

River: ($54.17, 2 players) 6

Hero shows K J (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 73%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
SB shows J 9 (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 27%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $51.47

[ ] similar in any way.

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Villain was something like 40/14 over a tiny sample under 15 hands.

BTN: $2.38
Hero (SB): $2.00
BB: $2.06
UTG: $1.98
MP: $2.26
CO: $2.00

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J K

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) Q T 5
Hero bets $0.04, fold, UTG raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.48, 2 players) 9
Hero bets $0.30


After turn gives me nut straight, is leading out the best way to induce a shove and take maney?

yeah, his range seems pretty strong otf, so take maney and wp I think.

villain is a tight reg and we don't have significant history. Is the river a b/f or a c/f? all i can get value from is TT,JJ,QQ -- is that too thin

Merge - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (UTG): $16.35
CO: $11.42
BTN: $18.89
SB: $9.90
BB: $5.41

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K K

Hero raises to $0.28, CO calls $0.28, fold, fold, BB calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.89, 3 players) 6 2 5
BB checks, Hero bets $0.66, CO calls $0.66, BB calls $0.66

Turn: ($2.87, 3 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets $2.15, CO calls $2.15, fold

River: ($7.17, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $3.58, CO raises to $8.33 and is all-in, fold

CO wins $13.62

so u got a fish at a table playing 65/35, i mean every hand hes init. and hes gonna try and win 8 out of 10. say u get AK u 3bet his min open; he calls OOP, you flop nada, cbet and give up to his donk bet otr. next hand, he doest it again to someone else. next time u try it, he does it again, you flop nada u give up. and on and on and on. what do you? do you keep ponding him,with ATC worthy of a raising a fish, or do just sit there tight(er than normal). or how do you battle ******s that come out playing like ***** durrrr on pda. i mean camon, i keep losing to ******s like that and yet ppl keep telling me there is no meta game at 10nl. keep value betting and fold when u dont have schitt. well its not working guys, we need another weapon for these gambling ******s. im not making schitt with my good hands and im paying ppl off way to much, just because their line doenst make any sense cuz durrr done it on tv. pls, god damn it. so i spam when im tilted, sue me.

you gotta stop putting money in the middle on the flop and then abandoning it when the going gets tough. Decide on the flop whether you're willing to play for multiple streets, multiple bets with your hand. If the answer is no, just check/fold. The absolute WORST thing you can do vs these guys is a one-and-done cbet.

Leading turn is okay vs this guy. It's a really exploitable line to take though cause you're almost never bluffing, and you also stop villain from bluffing.

Chances are that he's checking behind often though, and at uNL you don't really need to be balanced.

Yeah, too thin in most cases and definitely too thin especially when the turn is multiway.


Foldo: Don't cbet and give up vs this guy, play a wide value range. Either double barrel or give up certain flops cause he's clearly not folding to cbets. Stick to playing tight if you're uncomfortable valuebetting thin.

If they aren't folding pre just make it bigger and bigger with your value hands. He didnt fold to 4x? make it 5x or 6x.

Its really all about paying attention with players like this. watch his hands that get to showdown...Is he donking value hands? Is he playing his draws aggressively? Is he checking his monsters on the flop? etc. etc. It takes about 10 hands to figure these guys out because they generally do the same thing over and over.

Cliffs:

Make a read
Exploit it
Profit

Edit:

Also I have seen you turn down a few offers for sweats(iirc). Getting a base group of 2+2 friends that you can discuss things on skype with is awesome. A live sweat will help you immensely if you are open to criticisms and listen to other people's point of view.

yea im trying but im running so bad i just dont wanna raise 5x w KJo vs two limpers, because at least one of them is gonna call, i'm not gonna flop scihtt and pot is gonna be 12-15bbs. if i dont cbet, hes gonna donk turn and river and if i do hes gonna call and im gonna have to c/f turn just because you cant do shitt with KJ high on 556-3-9 when u wifff everything. few orbits later, flop KJ2 and your're gonna make exactly 0.04BBs. yea thats great. i just cant figure them out. and by then im usualy tilted cuz one of them decided to spazz out w 23s from SB and hits a str8 ott vs my TPTK. or 3bets to 25bbs, calls a shove w A9o and hits it otr vs my KK. by then im down 3 bis and tilted like a motherfooker. also, 1k hands a day is the nutz for me, taking me at least 27 years to climb out of micros.

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $1.49
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $0.78
CO: $0.97
BTN: $6.36

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A Q

UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.31, 3 players) 2 5 T
Hero bets $0.15, UTG calls $0.15, fold

Turn: ($0.61, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.53 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.53

Is Hero fist-pumping value or is he p*ssed he valuetowned himself?

idk dude, i'd call that, but im a fish as you see. actually, i'd prolly bet my self.