***uNL Quick Checkup Thread***

[dadude77]

ok cool... and what about this hand...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($7.06)
BB ($9.22)
UTG ($6.78)
CO ($5.62)
BTN ($5)

Dealt to Hero 6 5

UTG raises to $0.12, fold, BTN calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.35, fold, UTG calls $0.23, BTN calls $0.23

FLOP ($1.10) 2 4 6

Hero bets $0.78, UTG calls $0.78, BTN folds

TURN ($2.66) 2 4 6 5

Hero checks, UTG bets $1.78, Hero raises to $5.93 (AI), UTG calls $3.87 (AI)

RIVER ($13.96) 2 4 6 5 8

UTG shows 2 2
(Pre 48%, Flop 82.9%, Turn 86.4%)

Hero shows 6 5
(Pre 52%, Flop 17.1%, Turn 13.6%)

UTG wins $13.38

opponent is like 35/30 or so, he seems to float everything, and is super aggressive. is this ok play (on all streets)?

[Auts]

Originally Posted by dadude77

ok cool... and what about this hand...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($7.06)
BB ($9.22)
UTG ($6.78)
CO ($5.62)
BTN ($5)

Dealt to Hero 6 5

UTG raises to $0.12, fold, BTN calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.35, fold, UTG calls $0.23, BTN calls $0.23

FLOP ($1.10) 2 4 6

Hero bets $0.78, UTG calls $0.78, BTN folds

TURN ($2.66) 2 4 6 5

Hero checks, UTG bets $1.78, Hero raises to $5.93 (AI), UTG calls $3.87 (AI)

RIVER ($13.96) 2 4 6 5 8

UTG shows 2 2
(Pre 48%, Flop 82.9%, Turn 86.4%)

Hero shows 6 5
(Pre 52%, Flop 17.1%, Turn 13.6%)

UTG wins $13.38

opponent is like 35/30 or so, he seems to float everything, and is super aggressive. is this ok play (on all streets)?

Dont 3bet pre.

[andymc1]

Villain is 40/4. Fold to cbet: 14% (7 samples) raise cbet: 29% (7samples)

I've seen him min raise a cbet in big pots at least 3 times now in 52 hands and seen him call cbets OOP w/ K high etc and bluff the river when turn checks through.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11787572

BTN: $13.90 (139 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.55 (105.5 bb)
BB: $27.40 (274 bb)
UTG: $10.91 (109.1 bb)
MP: $11.26 (112.6 bb)
CO: $6.15 (61.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
UTG raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.50) 8 T A (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BTN raises to $3.20, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($9.90) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($9.90) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.85 and is all-in

[SCF]

Originally Posted by andymc1

I've seen him min raise a cbet in big pots at least 3 times now in 52 hands and seen him call cbets OOP w/ K high etc and bluff the river when turn checks through.

You have a small sample, but this seems like a good spot to check OTR and let him shove his bluffs into you. He seems fishy, so he might call with a worse Ace, but it sounds like he will definately bet a worse ace after you check twice and might bluff with his air as well (which is folding to your river shove).

[poshphil]

Villain was running 18/11 over 60 or so hands, AF 1.8 and AFq 45. Not seen him do anything particularly out of line in that time. Seems like an easy fold?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $2.06
MP: $2.16
CO: $1.39
Hero (BTN): $4.57
SB: $2.07
BB: $4.84

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K Q

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, BB calls $0.04, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) 6 6 K
BB checks, Hero bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.35, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

River: ($0.75, 2 players) T
BB bets $1.25

[SCF]

Originally Posted by poshphil

Villain was running 18/11 over 60 or so hands, AF 1.8 and AFq 45. Not seen him do anything particularly out of line in that time. Seems like an easy fold?

Yes, fold here. Call, call overbet donk is pretty strong, particularly if villain hasn't been out of line so far in the session.

[SCF]

Villain is basically an unknown, 23/15 over 26 hands and seems relatively TAGy based upon bet sizing, etc. He probably sees me as 24/20. The board run out is about as good as I can hope for and I can see him having a good Ax here a fair amount (as well as overpairs). I called F and T to keep him barreling his high cards that missed. Is this a call (bluff catch) or fold on the river?

Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $12.47
MP: $11.66
Hero (CO): $10.28
BTN: $10.49
SB: $5.90
BB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 6 6

UTG raises to $0.26, fold, Hero calls $0.26, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.67, 2 players) 2 7 7
UTG bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.55, 2 players) 2
UTG bets $0.77, Hero calls $0.77

River: ($3.09, 2 players) 8
UTG bets $1.54, Hero ???

[Dizzy Fuzz]

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11808252

BB: $6.09 (121.8 bb)
MP: $7.09 (141.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.36 (227.2 bb)
BTN: $4.99 (99.8 bb)
SB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
MP raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.65, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, MP calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.97) 4 Q K (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.70, BB folds, MP raises to $5.66 Hero sighs and....

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Villain is...
26/18 Afq 45
3bet 7, has never folded to a 3bet 0/2 though.
ATS 24, FvS 67
WTSD 26
WSD 67

Flop check raise 0/7
FvCB 60%
200 hands. seems competent. no real notes/reads.

[Dizzy Fuzz]

Originally Posted by SCF

Villain is basically an unknown, 23/15 over 26 hands and seems relatively TAGy based upon bet sizing, etc. He probably sees me as 24/20. The board run out is about as good as I can hope for and I can see him having a good Ax here a fair amount (as well as overpairs). I called F and T to keep him barreling his high cards that missed. Is this a call (bluff catch) or fold on the river?

Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $12.47
MP: $11.66
Hero (CO): $10.28
BTN: $10.49
SB: $5.90
BB: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 6 6

UTG raises to $0.26, fold, Hero calls $0.26, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.67, 2 players) 2 7 7
UTG bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.55, 2 players) 2
UTG bets $0.77, Hero calls $0.77

River: ($3.09, 2 players) 8
UTG bets $1.54, Hero ???

I dont mind the call down I guess. But depending on how I feel at the table at this particular point in the game, half the time I call down, half the time I fold flop.

[SCF]

Originally Posted by Dizzy Fuzz

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11808252

BB: $6.09 (121.8 bb)
MP: $7.09 (141.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.36 (227.2 bb)
BTN: $4.99 (99.8 bb)
SB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
MP raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.65, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, MP calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.97) 4 Q K (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.70, BB folds, MP raises to $5.66 Hero sighs and....

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Villain is...
26/18 Afq 45
3bet 7, has never folded to a 3bet 0/2 though.
ATS 24, FvS 67
WTSD 26
WSD 67

Flop check raise 0/7
FvCB 60%
200 hands. seems competent. no real notes/reads.

What is hero's 3bet stat here? If villain is competent, we need to consider how villain perceives hero's 3bet. I think this will greatly impact his 3-bet flatting range preflop, which is critical here.

The problem is that you don't have a good idea of his 3-bet call range, because you have no sample size. Since regs at uNL tend to call 3-bets out of position too much, my guess is that he probably has a flatting range of something like {QQ-22,AQ,KQ,AJ-ATs}. He is most likely 4-betting with AK, but some TAGs are uncomfortable getting it in and will flat with AK, even OOP. Maybe add 4 combos of AK for {QQ-22,AQ,KQ,AJ-ATs,AdTd, + 4 combos of AKo}. That equates to continuing with a 10% range (calling with an 8% and 4-betting 2%).

Since this flop smacks your 3bet range in the face, his check raise is pretty strong. I don't see him doing this with AQ or underpairs. The problem is that he has very few draws here because the K and Q are on the board and he should be folding JT preflop (though we can't be certain he actually will). So his means that if the 3bet flatting range described above is correct, his range for check-shoving the flop is probably {KQ,QQ,AdJd,AdTd, + 4 combos of AKo}.

At the end of the day, I think this boils down to how often you think he will flat AK preflop. If you don't think he has AK in his flatting range, then you have 27% equity, short of the 30% you need to call. If you put all of the AKo combos in his range, you have 43% equity and the call is trivial.

[YARR123]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $10.05
BB: $11.17
UTG: $13.02
MP: $10.15
CO: $9.50
Hero (BTN): $10.28

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A A

UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.45, fold, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) J 2 7
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB calls $1.20, fold

Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB calls $3.00

River: ($10.00, 2 players) T
SB bets $5.35 and is all-in



What's the deal here? Villain is 25/19 and straightforward, river looks like an obvious JT or maybe a slowly played set something.

[SCF]

Originally Posted by YARR123

What's the deal here? Villain is 25/19 and straightforward, river looks like an obvious JT or maybe a slowly played set something.

Given the stack sizes, it's probably not a bluff, since it's going to be hard to fold and villain couldn't count on hero finding a fold a 10NL. Looks like a set, especially if hero is fairly aggressive and can be relied upon to value bet flop and turn. The flop is very dry (only gutshots possible), so this would be a good spot for villain to slow play a set against a decently aggressive player.

[YARR123]

Yeah thats what I figured, he doesn't have really any FE. Sigh and muck it is then?

[MisterMittens]

Versus a TAG, this is a value bet like 100% of the time, right?

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BB): $17.18 (171.8 bb)
UTG: $11.84 (118.4 bb)
MP: $13.28 (132.8 bb)
CO: $10.55 (105.5 bb)
BTN: $23.45 (234.5 bb)
SB: $10.20 (102 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, SB folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 3 8 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.85) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.90

[blakkman08]

i think its either a fold or a raise but calling would be burning money as you will see Qx or thinks like KT or something a lot. looks a lot like a queen tho so u can get him off it if ure tight enough (ur image that is)