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01-10-2011 , 06:04 PM
yeah, thanks, i just stoved it and even if he does show up with jts, j9s, aqs, it's barely a breakeven call getting 3 to 1.
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01-10-2011 , 06:05 PM
what do you think of my turn bet size?
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01-10-2011 , 06:05 PM
First time for posting HH. Please forgive and inform me if I have included something I should not or left something out I should have included.

Poker Edge rating for SB was tight-loose/PFR/CB/Aggr = 31/11/74/43 based on 50k+ hands; for MP2 it was 36/1/74/31 based on 70k+ hands. Did I play this one right?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Full Tilt Poker Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG ($2.32)
UTG+1 ($2.16)
MP1 ($2.82)
MP2 ($1.88)
CO ($2)
Hero (Button) ($1.77)
SB ($2.05)
BB ($0.98)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, 10
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.08) 10, J, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.08) K (4 players)
SB bets $0.08, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.26, SB calls $0.18, MP2 calls $0.18

River: ($0.86) 3 (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $0.86 | Rake: $0.05
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01-10-2011 , 06:09 PM
mark, you have the nuts. bet, man, bet. checking back the river is absolutely criminal, don't you like money?
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01-10-2011 , 06:09 PM
completely unknown players here, maybe 3-6 hands in. should i be folding or shoving for these.

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SB ($47.98)
BB ($50)
CO ($55.17)
Hero ($70.80)

Dealt to Hero J J , CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, fold, BB raises to $6.50, fold, [color=red]Hero raises to $70.80 (AI)

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SB ($44.42)
Hero ($61.24)
UTG ($17.34)
UTG+1 ($47.73)
CO ($99.50)
BTN ($22.75)

Dealt to Hero Q A , fold, fold, CO raises to $1.50, fold, fold, [color=red]Hero raises to $7, CO raises to $16.50, Hero raises to $61.74 (AI)
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01-10-2011 , 06:18 PM
RB: Size is prob fine, I'd go like $2.50 I guess

Mark: Betbetbet. Shove river. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...kes-full-ring/ Full ring hands go in here btw, you'll get much better advice there for FR.

Bink: JJ: Doesn't seem terrible but you'd obv prefer to have some idea of whether they're squeezing light or not.
AQs: This kinda sucks cause you're 120bb deep. I don't usually stack AQ pre vs a complete unknown.
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01-10-2011 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlagojevich
mark, you have the nuts. bet, man, bet. checking back the river is absolutely criminal, don't you like money?
RB, a KJ beats my J10, and that is what I feared. If I shove, and villain has KJ, I get called and stacked; if villain has less than KJ, villain folds. I thought villain very unlikely call me unless villain had the nuts. So I checked.

Do you still disagree with my thinking? I so, please tell me why. Thanks for responding to my hand!
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01-10-2011 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenzied Deity
Mark: Betbetbet. Shove river. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...kes-full-ring/ Full ring hands go in here btw, you'll get much better advice there for FR.
Frenzied, please see my response to RB above and let me know what you think about my reasoning. Thanks, for your response above and the tip. I will post again in the FR thread.
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01-10-2011 , 07:07 PM
Against a 71/14 over 7 hands. Yea I'd just like some feedback on how I played the hand and if I should do anything different.

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $19.24
Hero (MP): $27.26
CO: $21.76
BTN: $33.79
SB: $8.50
BB: $6.91

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with J K
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) J 6 T (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.50, BB folds, UTG calls $2.25

Turn: ($10.10) T (2 players)
UTG bets $6.20, Hero raises to $22.76, UTG calls $8.54 all in

River: ($39.58) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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01-10-2011 , 07:12 PM
Antonio: Pretty damn thin imo. It's prob good, but defo a thin spot. You're stacking off on flop if 3bet?

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Originally Posted by MarkBeyer
RB, a KJ beats my J10, and that is what I feared. If I shove, and villain has KJ, I get called and stacked; if villain has less than KJ, villain folds. I thought villain very unlikely call me unless villain had the nuts. So I checked.

Do you still disagree with my thinking? I so, please tell me why. Thanks for responding to my hand!
If villain has KJ, then it's cooler.
He is *never* folding straight, Jx, or KQ or maybe even AT.
Your hand is nearly always the best hand and you're missing SO much value by checking back the river.
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01-10-2011 , 07:16 PM
yea I'm stacking off and I agree it's pretty thin. What line do you think would be most optimal?
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01-10-2011 , 07:20 PM
I guess the way you played it is fine. We can't really call turn when he has 8bux behind so it's just shove or fold, and given his vpip it prob is a shove without reads that he's completely passive postflop.
If you were stacking off on flop then make the flop closer to $4.25 I think. $3.5 seems small to me considering the amount of draws/worse hands that he's donking.
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01-10-2011 , 07:28 PM
villain is 34/24 LAG regular with a 15% 3bet and likes to barrel. he's slightly monkeyish yet still pretty good and dangerous, we have a super aggro dynamic with each other where he's seen me 4bet/get it in against him with like 99, etc. he's also seen me triple barrel for super thin value against him. the other guy in the hand is a fish.

Merge - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $10.32
BB: $6.78
UTG: $12.00
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $6.78
BTN: $21.13

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K A

UTG raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $0.98, fold, fold, SB calls $0.93, fold, UTG calls $0.63

Flop: ($3.04, 3 players) 5 T K
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.02, fold, UTG calls $2.02

Turn: ($7.08, 2 players) J
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.54, UTG calls $3.54

River: ($14.16, 2 players) K
UTG bets $5.46 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.46 and is all-in

Last edited by RBlagojevich; 01-10-2011 at 07:38 PM.
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01-10-2011 , 07:39 PM
^I'd just jam turn, but obv fine.
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01-10-2011 , 08:56 PM
Cold caller is 40/10 over 10 hands, other guy is reg.

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SB ($22.25)
BB ($106)
UTG ($22.50)
UTG+1 ($26.58)
CO ($27.92)
Hero ($60.92)

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, BB calls $2.25, UTG+1 calls $1.75

FLOP ($7.60) 3 8 4

BB bets $6.25, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $7.75

TURN ($35.60) 3 8 4 2

BB checks, Hero bets $18,
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01-10-2011 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
Cold caller is 40/10 over 10 hands, other guy is reg.

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SB ($22.25)
BB ($106)
UTG ($22.50)
UTG+1 ($26.58)
CO ($27.92)
Hero ($60.92)

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, BB calls $2.25, UTG+1 calls $1.75

FLOP ($7.60) 3 8 4

BB bets $6.25, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $7.75

TURN ($35.60) 3 8 4 2

BB checks, Hero bets $18,
I would raise bigger on the flop and shove turn.
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01-10-2011 , 11:37 PM
Yeah Spraggy I don't see what's the point of a minraise on the flop.
If you thought his range is super wide by this point, raise flop bigger.
I personally think this is thin though and it maybe hard to play later streets cause we still have a bunch of money behind...
I'd flat... Unless you think he'll stack off 99-AA here if you raise flop.

Last edited by Frenzied Deity; 01-10-2011 at 11:52 PM.
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01-11-2011 , 01:13 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $158.80
BB: $20.00
UTG: $68.60
MP: $18.50
Hero (CO): $132.00
BTN: $50.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, BTN calls $10

Flop: ($25.75) 5 8 K (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, BTN raises to $38.35 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

villain is probably a regfish judging by his min3bet, playing 24/17/2.5 and has 3bet 3 out of 11 opportunities prior to this hand. only 30 hand sample overall, no history/dynamic.

need to call 25.85 to win 76.70, so I need to have ~33% equity against villain's range to make a call +EV? Is this the correct way of calculating it? This seems like a call now =/

Does anyone like a c/c flop, c/f turn line?

Last edited by LOLdonkaments.; 01-11-2011 at 01:25 AM.
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01-11-2011 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkBeyer
RB, a KJ beats my J10, and that is what I feared. If I shove, and villain has KJ, I get called and stacked; if villain has less than KJ, villain folds. I thought villain very unlikely call me unless villain had the nuts. So I checked.

Do you still disagree with my thinking? I so, please tell me why. Thanks for responding to my hand!
Villain can also have TT, KK, AQ, AJ, QJ, J9, J8, J7 etc... He's not folding any of those hands.

No offence, but it seems like you have massive leaks there, learn to valuebet.
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01-11-2011 , 04:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBeyer
RB, a KJ beats my J10, and that is what I feared. If I shove, and villain has KJ, I get called and stacked; if villain has less than KJ, villain folds. I thought villain very unlikely call me unless villain had the nuts. So I checked.

Do you still disagree with my thinking? I so, please tell me why. Thanks for responding to my hand!
[ ] Villain folds worse ever
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01-11-2011 , 07:04 AM
First hand at the table, no reads, dont know his name.

Ongame Network $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players

Hero (BB): $20.00
CO: $22.20
BTN: $27.85
SB: $41.65

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with K 7
1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.50) K A 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $4, BTN raises to $27.65, Hero calls $15.80 all in

Turn: ($40.10) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($40.10) A (2 players - 1 is all in)
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01-11-2011 , 07:11 AM
^Getting $19.80 in on flop in a 50c pot is probably super spew without reads. Esp when you hold the Kh (maybe not too relevant cause he's a fish and would prob flat a pair&flushdraw anyway)
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01-11-2011 , 07:52 AM
yeah, I was thinking the same thing,
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01-11-2011 , 07:56 AM
All he can really have is A7 though right?
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01-11-2011 , 08:00 AM
Fish limp/call AA/KK/AK sometimes lol. (prob not likely but still)
He wouldn't really be bluffing $20 into a 50c pot and you're pretty dead vs his flop 4betting value range....

I'd tend to flat flop, and call down non-heart turns/rivers.
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