Reasoning behind jamming if checked to IP?

Maybe not made it clear enough, I meant if we were to swap lines & places (so he bet, we 3bet, he 4bet, we call (the call is bad but thats not important for this example). If villain (with iniative) then checks on the flop, it would make no sense to do this with a valuehand.

But if we bet (IP), he 3bet, we 4bet and he calls, and villain checks flop, cbetting is pretty dangerous since we have no inforrmation about villains range because he's probably going to check back his whole range on the flop (pretty standard play).

Sorry, my last post was a bit unclear (I guess this one too but whatever )

FPS is fun (not sure whether it's profitable) but you should try it sometime

we eff put him all in on flop, and I shoved because board texture was dry and if he had a big overpair he would jam pre

but yeah, even with a small sample his stats looks way too fishy to be jamming on hindsight, and I'll prob be jamming against a reg or tag and never again against a fish, he's calling flop way too often in his range

So are we essentially trying to get him to fold pocket pairs and broadways?

This guy is a reg playing 13/12 with 7% 3bet over ~200 hands, no particular reads. What's the best play?

Button (€5.82)
SB (€2.54)
BB (€5.86)
Hero (UTG) (€5.08)
MP (€4.34)
CO (€5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets €0.20, 1 fold, CO raises to €0.60, Hero?

lol samplesize. 12 hands could so easily be a streak of rungood. I would not pay to much attention to his VPIP and PFR until you get about 50 hands on a player, for postflop tendencies you need even more hands.

For the hand, since I think we're basically readless, I prefer a fold on the river.
However, if I was sure about the fact that villain is very aggro, I would try to GII on the turn.

Bovada, sorry no hand history yet.

just sat down.

100bb stacks, 25NL: Dealt to Hero: 4d4s

BTN limps, Hero completes, BB checks. pot .75

Flop: 4h3h2h

Hero bets .75, BTN calls. 2.25

Turn: 4c

Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $7.50, hero calls (mistake to slow play here?) pot $17.25

River: 5h

Hero?

Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $16.97
MP: $10.00
CO: $10.00
BTN: $4.83
Hero (SB): $6.81
BB: $10.68

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 3 3

UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20, 4 players) 8 K 3
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, fold, UTG calls $0.60

Turn: ($3.00, 3 players) J
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $2.00, [color=red]Hero raises to $5.91 and is all-in

He's 3betting your UTG raise so he is inclined to be more weighted to value.
4b/fold here is awful and we can't fold, so I'd be calling pre and evaluating post flop. Although obviously getting 3barrelled post flop sucks with JJ oop...

just getting back into playing a bit at 25nl zoom.

Noticed there are a lot of opens to 2.5x (0.62). Is this a new trend of some training site? Just trying to get a read on what these players are.
Just wondered as you have to set up standard bet size buttons to do this.

Is this is a standard shove?
Villain is unknown


[converted_hand][hand_history] $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17390141

CO: $24.32 (97.3 bb)
BTN: $24 (96 bb)
Hero (SB): $27.79 (111.2 bb)
BB: $36.22 (144.9 bb)
UTG: $25 (100 bb)
MP: $23.79 (95.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, CO raises to $7.75, Hero raises to $27.79 and is all-in

No, I'm careful about shoving QQ preflop. It depends entirely on the villain for me, too often your up against KK or AA.

I know by jamming turn we aren't gonna be called by worse, but should we call raise, call turn and fold river? I'm not too sure about it though, whether we should be going for value or folding

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $5.01
BB: $7.00 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG: $5.00
MP: $5.52
CO: $1.59
BTN: $4.40

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) 4 Q 2
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.73, Hero calls $0.53

Turn: ($1.76, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BB bets $1.31, Hero raises to $4.13 and is all-in

Fold river? I assume Q4 and Q2 are out of the question. 44/22 have you beat on the turn and are obviously calling the shove, but I think a call with KQ is also possible depending on villain. It looks like if you call turn you're commited on the river so folding is not an option unless you're folding turn, which personally I don't think I could do. I think I would call turn check/shove river, but I don't really think shoving turn is a terrible idea either.

On hindsight, I guess we could fold flop though. It's a super polarise boar and there's no flush draws out there, so if villain raised we know he should have 22/44 most of the times. That is really optimistic but I can't think if any other way he would plays any othe hands that way with those stats, although not a big sample

Yeah you only have 15 hands on him, and depending on what he thinks of you he could simply be bluffing. Honestly, how could you be folding that flop, a great flop for your hand, unless you've really got a read on this villain or are very sure he wouldn't take this line without the nuts?? Folding the turn is more reasonable, though even then its a difficult fold if its me in that situation.

Also to consider that I just realized– you raised from the SB. Have you been stealing relentlessly, could he have called with a two pair hand here just to show that he will play back at you? I think you might be being a little pessimistic about his range, though its hard to say. If he's good he'll realize, moreover, that you're not terribly likely to be holding a queen (if you're playing tight) so a bluff on this board is a perfectly reasonable play, especially when the second queen hits.

You cannot fold otf, you played well. It was a cooler, move on.

Imo std against late position. I guess you can call pre but it will be tricky often post.

Calling against 13/12 for sure but mainly for setmining. Obv your implieds are not great so folding imo okay too.

Folding TPTK on such a dry board OTF in a SB vs BB situation is super exploitable unless this guy is the world's biggest nit. Do we think he never raises that board with worse?

Although I agree he is more weighted to sets in this spot, he could conceivably raise any queen for value and a range of pocket pairs that he is hoping to get a cheap showdown with, as if you call; the turn/river will often go c/c c/c. Also you see villains make strange raises here "for information". He could of course have a load of air.

When he bets turn, he is surely polarised between queens,sets and air.

However, if he raised a Queen OTF then he may be inclined to think he now has the best hand ( say he assumes you called with KK,AA).

We need at least 42% equity vs his range to make a turn call - which we can find purely by putting him on range consisting of the remaining combinations of AQ, KQ, 22 and 44.

This is without including any air and other queens < KQ.

Unless he is very nitty I think we can continue OTT


I'm not sure what I think of the turn shove TBH, we obviously fold out all his air - but if he is inclined to play the hand this way with 10Q - KQ, then he will probably find a call here.

However, perhaps we could just call and then give him chance to bluff with air.
It may also be conceivable that he could fire a third bullet with a queen that you beat..

But in summary, I don't fold flop or turn. Its a cooler of a spot IMO.

He's 36/24 44%AFQ over about 100

This is exactly how he'd play an 8 ldo but I can't possibly fold.

Size on flop for turn shove?



Zy

MP: $17.85
CO: $10.40
BTN: $9.69
SB: $6.39
Hero (BB): $11.05
UTG: $9.73

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) A Q 8 SB checks, Hero bets $1.14, SB calls $1.14

Turn%s: ($4.08, 2 players) 8 SB checks, Hero bets $2.58, SB raises to $4.35 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.77

River%s: ($12.78, 2 players) 3

Surely just 1.40ish OTF which gives us just less than a POTsize turn AI

Hello guys,
Zoom poker, don't have any info about villain. In NL2 I see a lot of fishes who try to steal with air at situations like this, don't believe he can have a fh, but I'm afraid of something like A8 or random hands like Q7. What should i do?

Hey Guys

Got some hands i need some help with. Zoom 2nl/5nl btw.

Hand 1: No hands on villain, correct fold??





Hand 2: Villain 12/3 55 hands again is this a correct fold, my instincts told me he had KK/AA.







Hand 3: Villain 30/16 59 hands.

Feel as if i played this hand well up to the river and the big overbet just threw me, i timed out debating whether to call or not. I put him on Ax or 66 in the end. But how do we play these big overbet pots? Advice would be great.

Hey all,

No reads on villain, first 20 hands or so at the table.

Do you call a 3 bet here in a vacuum? Is turn bet just spewy?

Thanks!

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $2.19
BB: $2.62
UTG: $2.00
Hero (MP): $2.71
CO: $1.11
BTN: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 9 9

fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, BTN raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.43, 2 players) A K K
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.43, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

River: ($1.03, 2 players) 9
Hero bets $1.03, BTN raises to $1.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.47