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12-23-2012 , 01:36 PM
3bet pre isn't big enough. But I think it's just about a fold. We have enough behind.

My own hand. Is the river a b/f, c/c or c/f? Villain is unknown. Thoughts on preflop also appreciated - I think most 10NL players will be 3betting a decent range vs a SB open.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $10.03
Hero (SB): $10.85
BB: $10.93
UTG: $17.25
MP: $5.27
CO: $10.15

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) 8 J 8
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.80, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($3.80, 2 players) K
Hero ???
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12-23-2012 , 07:09 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15125681

    CO: $3.55 (71 bb)
    BTN: $13.54 (270.8 bb)
    SB: $13.62 (272.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
    MP: $5 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
    MP folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.47) 8 7 6 (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.32, Hero raises to $0.95, CO folds, BTN calls $0.63

    Turn: ($2.37) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($2.37) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks




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    I check raised the flop because the board was so wet and there were a lot of turns I didn't want to see. Then one of those cards comes on the turn and I decided to just check/fold the hand. Is this right or should I have bet/fold the turn and then re-evaluated on the river?
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    12-23-2012 , 11:23 PM
    @the definite article AJhh

    I would c/c, let him bluff. But he probably has a medium PP a lot so bet fold is also okay. C/c tho I prefer in case he wants to turn 22-77 into a bluff or other ace high coz he won't call a bet with this unless he's a fishy station.

    What do u think of my AKo hand?
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    12-24-2012 , 12:24 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Syfer
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15125681

      CO: $3.55 (71 bb)
      BTN: $13.54 (270.8 bb)
      SB: $13.62 (272.4 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
      MP: $5 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
      MP folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, Hero calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.47) 8 7 6 (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.32, Hero raises to $0.95, CO folds, BTN calls $0.63

      Turn: ($2.37) 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($2.37) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks




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      I check raised the flop because the board was so wet and there were a lot of turns I didn't want to see. Then one of those cards comes on the turn and I decided to just check/fold the hand. Is this right or should I have bet/fold the turn and then re-evaluated on the river?
      I would bet fold, I think worse hands still call, and u prevent getting bluffed off your hand. I don't think you will get bluffed raised often, especially at these stakes. You also have outs to the nuts if he is say slow playing the nut flush.

      I would probably xf river
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      12-26-2012 , 07:13 AM
      OnGame - €0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

      UTG: €2.02
      MP: €1.92
      CO: €5.09
      Hero (BTN): €4.00
      SB: €5.80
      BB: €9.21

      SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

      Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has Kc Ad

      fold, fold, CO raises to €0.12, Hero raises to €0.42, fold, fold, CO calls €0.30

      Flop: (€0.90, 2 players) 8c 6d 3h
      CO checks, Hero bets €0.46, CO calls €0.46

      Turn: (€1.82, 2 players) 7c
      CO checks, Hero checks

      River: (€1.82, 2 players) 2c
      CO bets €1.36, fold

      Should I double barrel here? I have no reads on my opponent, just sat down. Should I size bigger or a half pot c bet in a three bet pot is fine? Would you fold here?

      OnGame - €0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

      SB: €0.78
      BB: €4.50
      UTG: €4.94
      Hero (MP): €4.27
      CO: €4.33
      BTN: €8.49

      SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

      Pre Flop: (pot: €0.06) Hero has Kh Kd

      fold, Hero raises to €0.12, fold, BTN calls €0.12, SB calls €0.10, BB calls €0.08

      Flop: (€0.48, 4 players) 5d 2d 3c
      SB bets €0.04, BB calls €0.04, Hero raises to €0.64, fold, fold, BB calls €0.60

      Turn: (€1.80, 2 players) 3s
      BB checks, Hero bets €1.36, BB calls €1.36

      River: (€4.52, 2 players) Qs
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Did I miss some value at the end by checking or am I never getting called by worse because I think he has a lot of draws in his range (Villain is loose passive fish playing 50/7 over 30 hands) but he can also have 66-JJ and maybe A5, Q5 that might call...
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      12-27-2012 , 01:33 PM
        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15162921

        BB: $10.68 (213.6 bb)
        Hero (CO): $8.82 (176.4 bb)
        BTN: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
        SB: $1.57 (31.4 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with K A
        Hero raises to $0.15, BTN folds, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

        Flop: ($0.45) T 9 K (3 players)
        SB checks, BB bets $0.43, Hero calls $0.43, SB raises to $1, BB calls $0.57, Hero folds

        Turn: ($2.88) 4 (2 players)
        SB bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

        River: ($3.72) 3 (2 players)




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        I considered folding when the villain bet pot, I figure he's got a pair or a set and that FD and connected board have scared him into betting big. At the time I called because I thought he could have some worse pairs in his range, but in retrospect I think the only pair he'd maybe do that with is a worse king so maybe I could have just folded to the first bet.

        I'm pretty confident that I'm correct to fold as played, my hand has almost no room for improvement and the best case scenario for me is that they're both on big draws so half the deck is scary.



          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15162981

          UTG: $10.50 (210 bb)
          MP: $2.57 (51.4 bb)
          CO: $7.75 (155 bb)
          BTN: $5 (100 bb)
          SB: $2.84 (56.8 bb)
          Hero (BB): $5.21 (104.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with T K
          UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

          Flop: ($0.15) 7 T 9 (3 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $0.08, MP calls $0.08, SB calls $0.08

          Turn: ($0.39) 6 (3 players)
          SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.15, SB calls $0.15, Hero folds




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          I should've raised PF, I was posting the first hand at the time so I wasn't paying attention.

          As played am I ok x/f-ing the turn? If one of the villains doesn't have a straight already there are a lot more draws on the board.
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          12-29-2012 , 05:56 AM
          Rush hand - villain is unknown.

            Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15183761

            SB: $13.15 (52.6 bb)
            BB: $10 (40 bb)
            UTG: $24.83 (99.3 bb)
            MP: $32.40 (129.6 bb)
            Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
            BTN: $34.31 (137.2 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with J Q
            2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.50

            Flop: ($2.60) 7 9 9 (2 players)
            BB bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

            Turn: ($5.20) 6 (2 players)
            BB bets $2.60, Hero folds



            I can't fold pre. Call on flop seems okay. Turn, can't really call and probably have very little FE, so can't shove = fold. Line okay?
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            12-29-2012 , 11:29 AM
            I would call and donk shove any club, guy looks fishy going off his 3b size and probably snaps with any OP.
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            12-29-2012 , 04:03 PM
            Bovada | No Limit Hold'em Cash - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
            Hand #2659148149 - delivered by Pokeit

            BTN Seat 4: $1.85 (37 BBs)
            CO Hero: $7.01 (140.2 BBs)
            MP Seat 2: $8.73 (174.6 BBs)
            UTG Seat 1: $4.90 (98 BBs)
            BB Seat 6: $1.43 (28.6 BBs)
            SB Seat 5: $0.75 (15 BBs)

            Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Hero) is CO with T♣ 9♣
            Seat 1 calls $0.05, Seat 2 folds, Hero raises $0.10 to $0.15, Seat 4 calls $0.15, 2 players fold, Seat 1 calls $0.10

            Flop: 5♠ Q♠ A♣ ($0.52) (3 players)
            Seat 1 checks, Hero bets $0.20, Seat 4 folds, Seat 1 calls $0.20

            Turn: 9♠ ($0.92) (2 players)
            Seat 1 checks, Hero bets $0.45, Seat 1 calls $0.45

            River: K♣ ($1.82) (2 players)
            Seat 1 bets $0.60, Hero folds

            Final Pot: ($1.73 | rake $0.09) (1 player)
            Seat 1 wins $1.73 +$0.93

            What range would you put villain on the flop? He limped in pf and checked the flop so I decided to cbet it thinking he missed it, but his c/c flop and turn scared me a little bit thinking he might slowplaying something. Scary river card definitely forced me off. Do the cbet both flop and turn make sense though?
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            12-30-2012 , 02:29 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by titanium panda
            What range would you put villain on the flop? He limped in pf and checked the flop so I decided to cbet it thinking he missed it, but his c/c flop and turn scared me a little bit thinking he might slowplaying something. Scary river card definitely forced me off. Do the cbet both flop and turn make sense though?

            Initially on PP of course, after he called the turn, I'm not so sure anymore...

            any weak ace, TT, QJ will do it...

            As played a fold looks fine, we just beat small PP; the K isn't really scary, I think we were already beaten on the flop.

            I'd put 1bb more when isolating, but this may depend on your normal PFR, and, without info on villian, I might check turn and call a reasonable river bet.

            Against complete unknown, more often then not, I try to stay on the safe side. If I'm not on autopilot I could give up turn and river, expecially at 5nl Zoom.
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            01-02-2013 , 09:42 PM
            hey !


            Holdem Manager No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Holdem Manager Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

            Hero (SB) ($5)
            BB ($3.70)
            UTG ($5)
            MP ($5.57)
            Button ($6.59)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
            2 folds, Button bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.35

            Flop: ($1.05) 9, 10, A (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50

            Turn: ($2.05) 10 (2 players)
            Hero checks, Button checks

            River: ($2.05) 3 (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50

            Total pot: $3.05 | Rake: $0.13

            Spoiler:

            Button had K, A (two pair, Aces and tens).
            Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
            Outcome: Button won $2.92



            button is 19/19/14 taggy !

            i just wanna know even if we are 100% sure he had AK is it good to bet flop + turn or something ?
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            01-03-2013 , 06:51 PM
            [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15226041

            BTN: $5.05 (101 bb)
            SB: $19.15 (383 bb)
            Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
            UTG: $0.77 (15.4 bb)
            MP: $7.87 (157.4 bb)
            CO: $7.42 (148.4 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
            UTG folds, MP raises to $0.20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, MP raises to $7.87 and is all-in

            The player was single tabling in zoom, I'm pretty sure it's okay to get it in here as they can shove TT+ as well as AQs+ and AKo....?
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            01-04-2013 , 06:03 AM
            I think I would fold there. You need 43% equity for that to be a good call. 4bet shove there with the range you have picked out you have 45% so is marginal at best. If you drop AQs then its a losing play. Only gets to be good EV if he is also shoving with KQs every time as well and even then its not huge edge. Without any reads or stats I would curse, fold and move on. There will be better spots to get it in. If the roles were reversed and you were making the play fold equity would likely make it profitably in the long run but I think here its just variance IMO.

            TTP
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            01-04-2013 , 05:32 PM
            any read on villain there?
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            01-05-2013 , 03:29 PM
            Villain 32/23/1.2 over 92 hands.

            Fold good?

              Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

              SB: $112.05 (224.1 bb)
              Hero (BB): $55.60 (111.2 bb)
              UTG: $70.15 (140.3 bb)
              MP: $43.35 (86.7 bb)
              CO: $28.55 (57.1 bb)
              BTN: $47.95 (95.9 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
              4 folds, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2

              Flop: ($6) 3 8 K (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, SB calls $3.50

              Turn: ($13) 9 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB raises to $14.50, Hero folds

              Spoiler:
              Results: $26 pot ($1.30 rake)
              Final Board: 3 8 K 9
              SB mucked and won $24.70 ($11.70 net)
              Hero mucked A A and lost (-$13 net)
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              01-05-2013 , 03:58 PM
              Anybody play this different (and spots like it)? Felt like I was beaten on turn but getting good odds too...

                Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                UTG: $19.80 (39.6 bb)
                MP: $83.30 (166.6 bb)
                CO: $97.50 (195 bb)
                BTN: $146.25 (292.5 bb)
                SB: $50 (100 bb)
                Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
                3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $3

                Flop: ($9.25) K 5 8 (2 players)
                Hero bets $5.50, BTN calls $5.50

                Turn: ($20.25) Q (2 players)
                Hero checks, BTN bets $4.50, Hero folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $20.25 pot ($1 rake)
                Final Board: K 5 8 Q
                BTN mucked and won $19.25 ($9.25 net)
                Hero mucked J J and lost (-$10 net)
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                01-05-2013 , 06:53 PM
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by MonkeyWanderer
                Villain 32/23/1.2 over 92 hands.

                Fold good?

                  Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                  SB: $112.05 (224.1 bb)
                  Hero (BB): $55.60 (111.2 bb)
                  UTG: $70.15 (140.3 bb)
                  MP: $43.35 (86.7 bb)
                  CO: $28.55 (57.1 bb)
                  BTN: $47.95 (95.9 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
                  4 folds, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2

                  Flop: ($6) 3 8 K (2 players)
                  SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, SB calls $3.50

                  Turn: ($13) 9 (2 players)
                  SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB raises to $14.50, Hero folds

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $26 pot ($1.30 rake)
                  Final Board: 3 8 K 9
                  SB mucked and won $24.70 ($11.70 net)
                  Hero mucked A A and lost (-$13 net)
                  I'd bet bigger both streets because I think Kx & hands like JJ with a spade will call anyway. Don't want him too draw cheaply too.
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                  01-06-2013 , 09:16 AM
                  Good point. I agree. What do you do as played facing the raise?
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                  01-08-2013 , 05:10 PM
                  Prima, €0.10/€0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

                  Hero (CO): €25.16 (125.8 bb)
                  BTN: €22.20 (111 bb)
                  SB: €29.15 (145.7 bb)
                  BB: €51.09 (255.5 bb)
                  UTG: €20 (100 bb)
                  MP: €20.85 (104.3 bb) 19 vpip / 16 pfr / 7 agg / 3,1 3b% over 94 hands

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with Q T
                  UTG folds, MP raises to €0.70, Hero calls €0.70, 2 folds, BB calls €0.50

                  Flop: (€2.20) Q 7 5 (3 players)
                  BB checks, MP bets €1.60, Hero raises to €4.30, BB folds, MP raises to €20.15 and is all-in, Hero?

                  How would you have played the flop and ideas for subsequent streets?
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                  01-09-2013 , 01:26 AM
                  ^^ Just call flop imo. See what the turn is, but I don't see villains with said stats bluffing too wide.

                  Anyone play this any differently? Villain is 19/16 with a 18% (3/17) 3bet over 40 hands.

                  Fold turn?

                    Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15308971

                    UTG: $22.96 (91.8 bb)
                    MP: $16.78 (67.1 bb)
                    CO: $28.61 (114.4 bb)
                    Hero (BTN): $37.55 (150.2 bb)
                    SB: $25.37 (101.5 bb)
                    BB: $41.17 (164.7 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
                    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.25, BB folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $2.75

                    Flop: ($10.25) K 7 8 (2 players)
                    SB checks, Hero checks

                    Turn: ($10.25) T (2 players)
                    SB bets $5.12, Hero calls $5.12

                    River: ($20.49) 8 (2 players)
                    SB checks, Hero checks

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $20.49 pot ($1.02 rake)
                    Final Board: K 7 8 T 8
                    Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$10.12 net)
                    SB showed A K and won $19.47 ($9.35 net)



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                    01-09-2013 , 10:18 AM
                    Depends on the range you think he goes to the flop with, if he has stuff like JJ and AQ in his range his range then calling turn is okay I guess as he's gonna donk alot of that sort of stuff on the turn to try and get you to fold. However If he's pretty tight and only calling with AK QQ+ then I think you can fold the turn.
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                    01-12-2013 , 01:06 PM
                    Hi, I've just started playing poker again after a lengthy pause of 1.5 years (was never any good nor reached higher than NL50 a couple of times mind you) and I'm quite lost actually. Gonna have to start all over again, which I quite frankly don't mind anyway .

                    So here's the question, as the title implies I was playing some NL10 6max Zoom on PS when I got QQ from hijack. MP raised to $0.30 and I 3bet to $1.00. It was folded around to the BB who cold 4bet us to $3 and both MP and me folded. Both villains are complete unknowns as well. Was this too tight of a fold? In my mind it represents HUGE strength and the times it's something spazzy are too few. Am I wrong?
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                    01-13-2013 , 01:22 PM
                    General question from a rookie, bear with me please, I hope I am in the right thread.

                    Preflop all in: With what cards should I call with?

                    I am obviously on top with AA, but should I generally call a preflop all in push with AKo, or worse hands?

                    The number of opponents seems like it would change things, I assume I would call a preflop push with weaker holdings if there are fewer other callers?

                    Thanks
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                    01-14-2013 , 08:50 AM
                    Zoom NL5

                    Villain Stats after 95 hands: VPIP: 20 PFR:17.89 3Bet: 2.7 F3bet: 33.33 ATSteal:38.46


                    What would you do here? It's a easy shove?

                    PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
                    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

                    BTN: $6.35
                    SB: $5.12
                    Hero (BB): $6.03
                    UTG: $5.19
                    MP: $10.47
                    CO: $5.01

                    SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

                    Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A K

                    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $0.90
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                    01-16-2013 , 12:16 PM
                    Did I butcher this hand? Had been fairly tight up to this point.

                    Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
                    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                    Player1 (BTN): $50.54 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 60
                    Player2 (SB): $51.25 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 707
                    Player5 (UTG): $104.89 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 7, 3B: 5, AF: 1.3, Hands: 1215
                    Player6 (CO): $75.73 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 31, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 42

                    Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 5 7
                    1 fold, Player6 raises to $1.50, Player1 calls $1.50, Player2 calls $1.25, Hero raises to $6.90, Player6 calls $5.40, Player1 calls $5.40, 1 fold

                    Flop: ($22.20) K A Q (3 players)
                    Hero bets $11.25, Player6 calls $11.25, Player1 folds

                    Turn: ($44.70) 7 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $33.41
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