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08-28-2010 , 03:01 PM

Broot

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 477

Opponent 29\25 for 60 hands\\no reads...fine fold? Stack off if there is no third player in pot?

NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($29.15)
BB ($49.57)
UTG ($49.92)
Hero ($25.20)
CO ($11.84)
BTN ($27.04)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, fold

FLOP ($2.80) 8

SB checks, Hero bets $1.68, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero folds

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08-28-2010 , 03:07 PM

Psyzoid

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 559

It's such a drawy flop, I think I just put in a healthy reraise and try to get it in.

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08-28-2010 , 03:21 PM

Waayoo

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,997

I fold too
The only valueraisinghand villian has that we beat is AQ. VIllian is less likely to raise a with a draw flop b/c it's three way and he would like to see some more money in the pot.
Obv he could have 888, TTT, T8s, QTs, J9s or a monsterdraw like FD+gutshot/or +OESD
If we try to get the money in on the pot we are almost always a HUGE underdog
Good fold

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08-28-2010 , 03:35 PM

Broot

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Thanks...and what if there was no SB on the flop?

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08-28-2010 , 03:50 PM

Waayoo

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Originally Posted by Broot

Thanks...and what if there was no SB on the flop?

Uhm, since he will have more draws then and maybe even a 'lighter value-raising range' (lol first time i've used this word hehe) I would prob call and c/r AI a blanc turn

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08-28-2010 , 04:19 PM

thr33bet

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,461

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Originally Posted by Broot

Thanks...and what if there was no SB on the flop?

3b and get it in on the flop.

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08-28-2010 , 04:31 PM

Lefty5353

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11

something similar happened to me yesterday. the difference was no flush draw and I called the reraise on flop.. We eventually got them AI after a blank turn. He had AA. Which was last on my list of cards he had.

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08-28-2010 , 04:42 PM

gsiciliano

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,942

Bet more/get it in on the flop

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08-28-2010 , 06:13 PM

Kornspitz

adept

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 852

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Originally Posted by Waayoo

Even if you exclude draws from his range we are almost flipping:

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

25,740 games 0.002 secs 12,870,000 games/sec

Board: Qs Td 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.270% 44.27% 00.00% 11395 0.00 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 55.730% 55.73% 00.00% 14345 0.00 { TT, 88, AQs, QTs, J9s, T8s, AQo }

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08-28-2010 , 06:26 PM

#10

thirtydirtybirds

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 247

His flop reraise is so small that I would say it's any kind of flush draw, gutshot w pair like Q9 etc. I would reraise to a normal size and start from that.
Any notes and reads are crucial in these marginal situations. How the hell he plays his draws and made hands like sets, 2 pairs.

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08-28-2010 , 07:01 PM

#11

Waayoo

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,997

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Originally Posted by Kornspitz

Even if you exclude draws from his range we are almost flipping:

Wow, just wow
I did not expect that. How's that even possible? We are beat on the flop all the time expect for when he has AQ. Prob because there are so little QTs, J9s and T8s combo's and a lot more AQ combo's
But remember, that when we 3bet flop he will fold AQ a lot and then we will be a huge underdog :P
I just tried pokerstoving it, but Pokerstove is donig weird :S

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08-28-2010 , 07:43 PM

#12

Skaplun

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713

you think he folds aq here? Why?

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08-28-2010 , 08:18 PM

#13

antonio1591

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,304

You're at best flipping against a combo draw or crushed by two pairs, sets, or a straight. Considering he raised you with the sb still in the hand, he's probably very strong.

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08-29-2010 , 06:41 AM

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Waayoo

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,997

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Originally Posted by Skaplun

you think he folds aq here? Why?

Uhm, YAH
WHy?
Hero CBet's in a 3way pots, Hero get's raised, and Hero 3bets over it, THat means he will always have an Oveprair AT LEAST and draws. ANd it's -EV for AQ to call against that range

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