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Too passive river play? Too passive river play?

05-03-2016 , 03:29 PM
Villain opens a rather standard 17% UTG range, and has a high (71) fold to c/r percentage. (I know I dont make a c/r, but I would expect players like these also to throw away a lot of hands to reraises)

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.65, PFR: 17.21, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 862)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 4.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 102.34 BB (VPIP: 23.44, PFR: 20.23, 3Bet Preflop: 8.45, Hands: 1,667)
CO: 101.78 BB (VPIP: 27.10, PFR: 20.60, 3Bet Preflop: 7.09, Hands: 644)
Hero (BTN): 103.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) T Q 2
BB checks, UTG bets 4.7 BB, Hero raises to 13.2 BB, fold, UTG calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (34.4 BB, 2 players) 2
UTG checks, Hero bets 16.34 BB, UTG calls 16.34 BB

River: (67.08 BB, 2 players) K
UTG checks, Hero checks

UTG shows 7 6 (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 14%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K J (Flush, King High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 86%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 63.72 BB
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05-03-2016 , 03:56 PM
How can you check the river.
Also bet turn bigger

Edit: woops missed the board pairing. I guess you can still bet river smallish though.
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05-03-2016 , 04:01 PM
Given the action up to the river It's very unlikely villain has a full house. There are A3ss,A4ss and A5ss(unless he opens every suited ace from UTG) that you are beat by and 76ss,78ss and 89ss + some TQs and KQs that you beat and could call river. So I think it's best to bet around 35 BBs.
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05-03-2016 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rAv
How can you check the river :O
Also bet turn bigger
Probably bad, but I reasoned that from his UTG open range there wouldnt be many worse combos thats gonna play for 100bb. So I tried a hero check, if thats even a term lol.
Looking back Im not too unhappy about the river. But turn bet should be higher for sure.
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05-03-2016 , 04:36 PM
Villain's getting 3-1 on the flop call to the raise, I think you can raise bigger on the flop and he'd still call getting 2-1ish and you're getting muchos outs, and can then bet the turn bigger too.

So raise flop higher, bet turn bigger. River you can check through then if cautious and you still win a bigger pot.

Best,
Pete
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05-03-2016 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Harris
Villain's getting 3-1 on the flop call to the raise, I think you can raise bigger on the flop and he'd still call getting 2-1ish and you're getting muchos outs, and can then bet the turn bigger too.

So raise flop higher, bet turn bigger. River you can check through then if cautious and you still win a bigger pot.

Best,
Pete
100 % agreed. Flop bet should be higher, certainly, so that I can check the river and still win bigger. Dont think its a 100bb hand.
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05-04-2016 , 08:04 AM
I go slightly bigger on flop and turn. AP, check river is fine. Not enough room to bet-fold, so it's a shove or check, and I don't think you are ahead >50% of the time if he calls a river shove.
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05-04-2016 , 08:05 AM
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05-04-2016 , 08:28 AM
cool story, bro.
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05-04-2016 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by chandigarh1133
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