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thoughts? thoughts?

10-22-2014 , 10:59 PM
Just reviewing some old hands rn and these are 2 spots that I'm stuck on.



UTG is 20/18: foldto3betoop 100(1/1) foldto3betip 67(2/3)
SB is 21/15
BB is 23/16

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    Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
    SB: $27.25 (109 bb)
    BB: $25 (100 bb)
    UTG: $29.92 (119.7 bb)
    MP: $7.72 (30.9 bb)
    CO: $20.85 (83.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
    UTG raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

    Flop: ($3.40) 2 7 3 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.04, Hero calls $2.04, SB calls $2.04, BB folds

    Turn: ($9.52) Q (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6, SB folds

    River: ($21.52) J (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    Spoiler:
    Results: $21.52 pot ($1.07 rake)
    Final Board: 2 7 3 Q J
    Hero showed K K and won $20.45 ($11.56 net)
    UTG showed J A and lost (-$8.89 net)



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    Villain is 15/20: foldto3betoop 50(1/2) foldto3betip 55(6/11)
    So I know that the preflop call was bad (this was a while ago so i cant remember why I called, mustve had a reason)
    Should I have check jammed riv or just flatted?

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      Hero (BB): $38.17 (152.7 bb)
      UTG: $29.57 (118.3 bb)
      MP: $28.68 (114.7 bb)
      CO: $12.26 (49 bb)
      BTN: $29.15 (116.6 bb)
      SB: $25.10 (100.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 A
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.60) 3 3 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $1.12, Hero calls $1.12

      Turn: ($3.84) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.49, MP raises to $5.75, Hero calls $3.26

      River: ($15.34) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $10, Hero calls $10

      Spoiler:
      Results: $35.34 pot ($1.76 rake)
      Final Board: 3 3 4 8 J
      Hero showed 7 A and won $33.58 ($15.96 net)
      MP showed T K and lost (-$17.62 net)



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      10-22-2014 , 11:05 PM
      better topic titles please
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      10-22-2014 , 11:08 PM
      well im asking for thoughts lol, its a good title
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      10-22-2014 , 11:08 PM
      raising h1, too many players in the hand

      h2 not jamming river seems bad, he's only got another $11 left
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      10-23-2014 , 12:05 AM
      raising pre and on the flop in h1. But as played river check is fine.

      h2 i'm check calling the turn and shoving that river. As played I'm still shoving that river
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      10-23-2014 , 12:09 AM
      Also don't show results
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      10-23-2014 , 12:59 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by winigwl
      raising pre and on the flop in h1.
      raising would fold out so many of his hands though
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      10-23-2014 , 01:10 AM
      Hand 1: 3bet pre, jam river

      Hand 2: not too fond of the turn donk, jam river
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      10-23-2014 , 02:04 AM
      h1 : raise flop
      h2 : fold pre
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      10-23-2014 , 10:13 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Gone Fi$hin'
      raising would fold out so many of his hands though
      Maybe, what are his Cbet stats? I think Ax is calling a raise a lot of the time there
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      10-23-2014 , 12:07 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by lvr
      h1 : raise flop
      h2 : fold pre
      Yeah, I think calling h2 pre is a leak vs. anyone decent. Vs. a bad player calling can be good though
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      10-23-2014 , 12:22 PM
      3bet hand 1. Why wouldn't you do it? Very small 3bet sample size so means almost nothing. And since he opened UTG, he should have a tight pfr range that should call or even 4bet over most 3bets. As played, betting the river. Get value from AQ/AJ/KQ/JTcc. Plus if he has a hand that beats ours, he's betting it himself. Shoving would be sexy, but ~$9 might be better.

      Hand 2: 3bet or fold pre.

      As played, GII OTT. Players don't raise when 3 to a flush comes without a flush or a boat. So he either has to have 44, 88, or 43 to have us beat. More likely, he has KdKx or KQdd or a hand like that. Also note that there is a good chance his boats don't raise OTT. Why would they? Let you catch up and continue bluffing.
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      10-23-2014 , 12:26 PM
      H1 I think is well played. River I would shove when checked to though. Plenty of missed draws we can have.

      H2 I'm fine with pre when we have a suited ace and are getting a discount. Still quite margnal. Don't quite get the turn donk. River I just call.
      33 44 88 is 7 combos. We block a lot of possible flush combos. And if he is raising turn and betting river for value I would assume he has at least a flush. A3 seems unlikely though possible. But lets's assume he is not calling without a flush. Hard to come up with 8 flush combos. KQ KJ KT QJ QT JT T9 65s is 8 combos and at least KTs QTs and 65s are not auto opens from MP for a 20/15. And he might even find a fold with some flushes (at least he should). So Shoving for value is too thin.
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