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09-29-2016 , 05:31 PM
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $7.54
BB: $6.30
UTG: $7.33
MP: $12.10
CO: $5.32

[b]Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with 4 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.29) 7 Q 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.58, BTN raises to $1.66, Hero raises to $7.42 all in, BTN calls $3.22 all in

Turn: ($10.05) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

I dont feel grate when money goes in this why with bottom set,but do I have any other option ?
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09-29-2016 , 05:37 PM
why u didn't 3bet pocket 44?

''I dont feel grate when money goes in this why with bottom set,but do I have any other option ? '' > no
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09-29-2016 , 07:43 PM
you should probably look up the math on how rare set over set is if youre afraid of the money going in with bottom set and no straights available on the board. thats a giant leak in itself
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09-29-2016 , 07:51 PM
I know they are super rare ,but when he 3bets me on this flop not many hands make sense.He 3B me with QQ 77 AcQc maybe QcKc AcKc and I donr know can he 3bets me on flop with something else ?
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09-29-2016 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I know they are super rare ,but when he 3bets me on this flop not many hands make sense.He 3B me with QQ 77 AcQc maybe QcKc AcKc and I donr know can he 3bets me on flop with something else ?
Probably all combos of AA and KK if he's a spaz. He's going to have a lot more flush draws then the combos you stated. Id be delighted when I've got a set and all the money goes in. Probably fold pre also
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09-29-2016 , 11:30 PM
Call flop, you have 6 value combos to raise....

AP, GII is good. If you get set-over-set your gonna lose your stack most of the time. The sooner you accept that the better.
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09-30-2016 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $7.54
BB: $6.30
UTG: $7.33
MP: $12.10
CO: $5.32

[b]Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with 4 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.29) 7 Q 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.58, BTN raises to $1.66, Hero raises to $7.42 all in, BTN calls $3.22 all in

Turn: ($10.05) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

I dont feel grate when money goes in this why with bottom set,but do I have any other option ?

if the guy is Something like 3/3/3 and never raise flop in 5K hands, i can find fold.. vs random is stackoff ok.. and yes, sometimes its set over set..
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09-30-2016 , 04:20 AM
If we can't go all in here... then there is no reason to play it at all.
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09-30-2016 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cantor1987
Probably all combos of AA and KK if he's a spaz. He's going to have a lot more flush draws then the combos you stated. Id be delighted when I've got a set and all the money goes in. Probably fold pre also
I wold assume that most of flush draws will call raise IP,so this make sense if e have A high flush draw so 9 combos of that plus 6 combos of sets.So 60% I m against nut flush and 40% against set.
EV=0,6*(10,5*0,66-10,5*0,34)+(0,05*10,5-0,95*10,5)*0,4=-7,4 (somebody check this I m not sure) but it looks like its -EV in that case
If he can gii with overpairs then sure its profitable but I m not sure if we can assume that.Can we?
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09-30-2016 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I wold assume that most of flush draws will call raise IP,so this make sense if e have A high flush draw so 9 combos of that plus 6 combos of sets.So 60% I m against nut flush and 40% against set.
EV=0,6*(10,5*0,66-10,5*0,34)+(0,05*10,5-0,95*10,5)*0,4=-7,4 (somebody check this I m not sure) but it looks like its -EV in that case
If he can gii with overpairs then sure its profitable but I m not sure if we can assume that.Can we?
Sure we can.
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09-30-2016 , 06:53 AM
Raise flop is fine just balance it with some Fds n sheet... Ap GII and cry when you lose to a higher set.


I don't like the preflop call unless BTN or BB is fish.
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09-30-2016 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I wold assume that most of flush draws will call raise IP,so this make sense if e have A high flush draw so 9 combos of that plus 6 combos of sets.So 60% I m against nut flush and 40% against set.
EV=0,6*(10,5*0,66-10,5*0,34)+(0,05*10,5-0,95*10,5)*0,4=-7,4 (somebody check this I m not sure) but it looks like its -EV in that case
If he can gii with overpairs then sure its profitable but I m not sure if we can assume that.Can we?
I mess up EV its +EV if he gii with every nut flush draw,but I dont know if he is gone do that.How would you play if you are button and you have A5 with flush draw
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09-30-2016 , 07:31 AM
I´d not go allin with A5s.

Nevermind, i put him on AKs, AQs, 77, QQ, KK, AA (solid reg)... or random thrash, because i dont have stats and it could be 100/100 maniac
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09-30-2016 , 07:33 AM
Fold pre.
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09-30-2016 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Karrlitos1
Fold pre.
agree, 3b or fold pre. Depends on villain stats.
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