Overpair vs. BB lead OOP - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Swanndogg · 06-17-2012, 11:49 PM

BTN is 24/20, and 3bets 4.3% over 400 hands. Pretty standard reg.
BB is 23/14, 0% 3bet. Standard unknown (whatever that means, lol)

, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $10.71 (107.1 bb)
SB: $13.56 (135.6 bb)
BB: $10.20 (102 bb)
UTG: $7.19 (71.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.03 (100.3 bb)
CO: $11.25 (112.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T

T

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, SB folds, BB calls $0.25

I have BB calling probably 25%, and C/O is fairly tight, probably about 8%, as he is 3betting his monsters most of the time.

Flop: ($1.10) 4

7

2

(3 players)
BB bets $0.82, Hero calls $0.82, BTN calls $0.82

I have no idea what BB donk means. I don't think I can rule out any of his range at this time. BTN's call worries me, however.

Turn: ($3.56) J

(3 players)
BB bets $2.67, Hero calls $2.67, BTN folds

At this point, I have BB's range as a lot of draws, sets, top pairs, overpairs,
and straight draws. I have BTN's range as the same as BB as to his value hands, but a whole lot less draws. Seeing as how I am stuck between them, I like a fold here. If I was just against the BB, I think I might c/call and evaluate river.

River: ($8.90) 7

(2 players)
BB bets $6.36 and is all-in, Hero folds

I think River is a pretty obvious fold. All his draws get there, and he has a ton better as well.

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So I think best play is call flop, fold turn. What do you all think?

GOONERCAM · 06-17-2012, 11:58 PM

fold the turn

fsn · 06-18-2012, 04:57 AM

yupyup he's not leading air again after you both call and can't really lead worse for value anymore either

stakingonlyyou · 06-18-2012, 05:26 AM

BB donk was unanswered, I'd rather raise the flop and find out, this way we can fold turn if he continues or fold the flop if he 4bet shoves. Obviously we can only assume BB donk is strength.

masstack · 06-18-2012, 06:45 AM

fold ott

docz · 06-18-2012, 08:05 AM

with the btn overcalling the flop and the bb leading again into two opponents on the turn, this is a fold.

gbb187 · 06-18-2012, 08:40 AM

vs an unknown im raising OTF to because I expect to still get value from worse pairs and draws while also ending the hand right now some of the time because there are quite a lot of bad rundowns for our hand especially multiway. I think by calling you just gave him a license to take you off your hand with worse. Here you chose to flat and have the benefit of knowing BTN came along to and he fired a turn barrel, obv signifying that he was likely pretty strong here, but it's not unreasonable to think he could also take this line with 33, 55, 66, 88-99, A3, A5, sometimes random Ax, 7x, 4x, 2x, etc. Obviously some reads on his postflop play would be ideal, but given the wide range he can have OTF I like raising more than calling.

dadude · 06-18-2012, 12:35 PM

usually a flop donk is either a 1 time stab with air, fd or a fish who hit something strong.

When he leads turn again into all 3 of you easy fold imo